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My First Tan - alukban - 09-21-2016

I had started at trying my hand trapping a couple of years ago and went exclusively for mink because they are small enough to fit in my apartment freezer in Brooklyn... true story <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />



I never connected with one though because I never get enough days out - only 4 days of traps out last year.



This year, I'm using 24" box traps upon recommendation from a local buddy who is a hobbyist trapper AND professional wildlife control operator. Their use is not described at all in the our State law but he assures me that they are legal by the very omission (along with deadfalls).



In preparation for finally getting lucky this November, I bought a very small green beaver hide from the same buddy to try my hand at the process and learn.



It wasn't bad at all! The fur turned out great even though I put a couple of extra holes in it <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



1. I used this stuff.

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2. Fleshing.

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3. Finished up.

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4. The side where all the work happened.

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5. My skin softening station.

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I'm looking forward to working on a mink quiver this winter <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />


My First Tan - caver56 - 09-22-2016

That's going to be a good looking hide. You should try a brain tan. Not to much more work just some pig brains from the butchers. A few mink will go good with the beaver.


My First Tan - alukban - 09-22-2016

After trying this small one, I would try a brain tan <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />



I'm looking for a more academic write up on what is actually happening in tanning a skin and not just a "how-to".



Anybody know of one?


My First Tan - Theophilus - 09-22-2016

I think that Prairie Wolf does a good job. John & Geri McPherson, "Naked Into the Wilderness." This has more recently been published as "Ultimate Guide to Wilderness Living: Surviving with Nothing But Your Bare Hands and What You Find in the Woods," but although the latter is cheaper, it also has smaller print/fonts. I also own their video/DVD on brain tanning. While their videos are not the highest quality, they know what they are talking about and both are gifted teachers.



FWIW: I always shop http://www.amazon.com; http://www.half.com; and http://www.abebooks.com for the best deal before I buy a book.

Theophilus


My First Tan - alukban - 09-23-2016

Thank you for the lead Theophilus <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



I will dig into it.


My First Tan - caver56 - 09-23-2016

George would be a good one to get info for fur on hide tanning.


My First Tan - Adapt-Overcome-Conquer - 09-25-2016

Nice job Alukban! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/><img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/> it looks soft!



Yeah George is the authority on tanning here for sure.



but at the eotw I did my first brain tan! and many questions were answered,



you take the raw hide, soak it in the creek, until the hair pulls out easily, then you lay it on a work station, (wood) and begin fleshing process,with a dull draw knife, not for the hair so much as for the epidermis, the lady said the water soluable fats in the brain cant penetrate the epidermis and any spots where it is left on, will not soften, they will be hard upon drying....she was right....



I had to flesh that thing and soak it like 5 or 6 different times. and it still wasn't perfect. she said you can substitute 6 eggs or a bar of shredded ivory soap for the brain and water mixture...she said other fats from the animal dont work, because they are not water soluble, they will separate and float to the top of your mixture; thereby not penetrating the hide.



something interesting about the smoking of the hide....she said it is not just to add color but that the creosote in the wood smoke, seals in the brains and makes the hide soft....if you dont smoke it, then if the hide gets wet it will turn rock hard again.



also something about the soaking, wringing, then working of the hide...forces that water soluble fat into the fibers of the hide, and breaks them down, to soften them......you have to continually work every inch of that hide until dry....any tiny spot near the edges that you didn't stretch and pull while drying, I mean any part that seemed to be allowed to dry on it own, went hard.



some folks were saying there's a new chemical that people are using but I cant remember the name.....





AOC


My First Tan - jbarrow - 10-08-2016

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Nice job Alukban! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>/><img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>/> it looks soft!



Yeah George is the authority on tanning here for sure.



but at the eotw I did my first brain tan! and many questions were answered,



you take the raw hide, soak it in the creek, until the hair pulls out easily, then you lay it on a work station, (wood) and begin fleshing process,with a dull draw knife, not for the hair so much as for the epidermis, the lady said the water soluable fats in the brain cant penetrate the epidermis and any spots where it is left on, will not soften, they will be hard upon drying....she was right....



I had to flesh that thing and soak it like 5 or 6 different times. and it still wasn't perfect. she said you can substitute 6 eggs or a bar of shredded ivory soap for the brain and water mixture...she said other fats from the animal dont work, because they are not water soluble, they will separate and float to the top of your mixture; thereby not penetrating the hide.



something interesting about the smoking of the hide....she said it is not just to add color but that the creosote in the wood smoke, seals in the brains and makes the hide soft....if you dont smoke it, then if the hide gets wet it will turn rock hard again.



also something about the soaking, wringing, then working of the hide...forces that water soluble fat into the fibers of the hide, and breaks them down, to soften them......you have to continually work every inch of that hide until dry....any tiny spot near the edges that you didn't stretch and pull while drying, I mean any part that seemed to be allowed to dry on it own, went hard.



some folks were saying there's a new chemical that people are using but I cant remember the name.....





AOC

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WOW! You learnt good! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />


My First Tan - alukban - 10-18-2016

I made it into an evening purse/clutch bag for my wife.



She loves it <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



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I sewed a brass D-ring right into the seam and used a hidden zipper.



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My First Tan - Motman241 - 10-18-2016

Very nice! That turned out well! Congrats.


My First Tan - mjh - 03-11-2017

Nice work on the beaver! Matt Richards has good work on braintanning....borrowed the book out but I memory serves he does a good job on explain the how's and why's.....havs dvd also....