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Tinder Quick Sucks! So,
#1
Tinder Quick Sucks!

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I remember the first time I tried Tinder Quick, I said to myself "Why bother?" Cotton balls are cheaper!





Then I dunked half a tab in petroleum jelly. Now that was a definite improvement! It burner longer and with a better flame. But PJ was messy, so I stored the tabs in a small ziplock pill bag. That helped but there must be a better way.





I tried coating half a tab with beeswax.

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Then I put a untreated TQ beside a treated TQ and hit them with a ferro rod. Here's a pic taken just when the untreated tab went out. The beeswax TQ is just getting into gear with a nice hot flame. I didn't time it as I needed to get a fire going! I usually use trioxane at least once on a trip, but not last trip! The beeswax TQ was that good! If ya have trouble sparking one, place ia tab on top of an alcohol pad.



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I also tried making beeswax beer bottle cap candles with pipe cleaner wicks. They burned very hot! Ya could cook on a couple caps! I could only get a 20-25 minute burn time. My timer said 30 minutes but the candle went out behind my back. My estimate. A taller candle is needed for longer burn time. Previous experience has taught me how good a candle is as a firestarter.

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Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#2
sweet innovation ya' got there Ronnie, Beeswax is something that I have on hand all the time <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />



I remember thinking the same thing, about the TQ-- waste of time--- but now! well, I'll give it another try with some beeswax on it!!! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />





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#3
Nice,

Thanks for sharing - even including pics.
Steve
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#4
Wax (especially bees wax) makes all kinds of things burn better. I'll pass on the Tinder Quick, though. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



I remember several years ago playing with jute dunked in wax (candle making-style), and hit it with a spark. If I remember right, it burned for almost 15 minutes.
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[quote name='Motman241' timestamp='1445991991' post='605029']

Wax (especially bees wax) makes all kinds of things burn better. I'll pass on the Tinder Quick, though. [Image: wink.gif]



I remember several years ago playing with jute dunked in wax (candle making-style), and hit it with a spark. If I remember right, it burned for almost 15 minutes.

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I completely forgot about the waxed jute! I even have some lying around but have never tried! That may be better in different ways.





Did ya spark the wax or unwaxed section of jute?
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#6
[quote name='TN RIDGE ROVER' timestamp='1445996214' post='605035']

Did ya spark the wax or unwaxed section of jute?

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I'm sure I fluffed out the unwaxed bit and hit that with a spark (it was a long time ago). I'm not sure I would ever do it any other way. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



We did discuss what happens when the wax gets warm in your bag/pack and starts to get melty. I don't remember, but I think we just said to put it all in a Ziplock.
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#7
I took some canvas and cut it into strips 1.5 inches long by 6 inches then rubbed PJ into it



Wrapped it around a piece of PJ soaked cotton ball and basically made a cigar from it.



They burn for about 20 minutes.



Kid
Live with honor, ride with truth.  Be friendly to others.  But always carry a gun on your side and a knife in your boot because there are those that do not feel the same as this.


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#8
I always hate it when I have a contrarian view, but I find the TQ's awesomely effective for what I want them to do, which is live in my wallet for a year, get soaked, and still light with one spark. I've done this camping with my scouts, told everyone to dump their fire kits in the bucket of water for a minute, then first to boil wins. I generally prefer my regular bic, but for this challenge I tossed in the large ferro rod and my TinderQuicks and a handful of fatwood matches (the commercial stuff, cut down and split fine like match-dimensions) and was able to wipe off the ferro, shake water off the flattened tinder, fluff it out, and caught spark on the first try. Fatwood lit immediately, and my confidence in the system was restored.



Add that they don't make a mess on their own, and work well for me, and I'm sold.
Christopher Price
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[quote name='Smithy' timestamp='1451879574' post='606817']

I always hate it when I have a contrarian view, but I find the TQ's awesomely effective for what I want them to do, which is live in my wallet for a year, get soaked, and still light with one spark. I've done this camping with my scouts, told everyone to dump their fire kits in the bucket of water for a minute, then first to boil wins. I generally prefer my regular bic, but for this challenge I tossed in the large ferro rod and my TinderQuicks and a handful of fatwood matches (the commercial stuff, cut down and split fine like match-dimensions) and was able to wipe off the ferro, shake water off the flattened tinder, fluff it out, and caught spark on the first try. Fatwood lit immediately, and my confidence in the system was restored.



Add that they don't make a mess on their own, and work well for me, and I'm sold.

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I won't disagree with that. Just mentioning options.
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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