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#&%*! Morning Glories.
#1
I have a nice garden this year. It is neat and orderly. I am going organic this year. I am planting each plant with a fresh fish. I am planting tobacco to keep the bugs out. I am mulching to retain the moisture in the soil and keep the weeds down.



My big problem is the #&%*#$! Morning Glories, Choke Weed, Tater Vine.. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cursing.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cursing:' /> No matter what you call it I can not get rid of it. I gently pull it along the vine under the ground and try to get it all. The more I pull it up the more I have coming up. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wallbash.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wallbash:' />



Does anyone have a way to get rid of this pest that takes hrs a day to pull up? I am keeping to the organic side of gardening if I can. I do NOT want to go chemical all over my garden if I do not have to. I fear that the flame thrower is out of the question if I want to have goodies from my garden this year. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' />



Any ideas that my work are welcome.



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#2
I only know two organic methods to get rid of weeds.

First is to use a bio-friendly dish soap on the leaves and stems.

The other is to put salt on the base of the stems. You have to be careful because it will kill anything nearby.

You also don't want to screw up your well. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':o' />

That's what I got.

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#3
Hey little otter!



The issue that you're having with your morning glories is due to the fact that you're allowing it to create flowers (and thus seeds, and thus, more morning glory plants). Do NOT use Roundup, or any other chemical to kill it, unless you want that crap in your veggies.



Morning Glories are hearty, and a pain in the ass at times, but they *can* be useful for lots of stuff (just so you know that you're not harboring a completely useless weed). Honey Bees love 'em, which is great if you're considering keeping bees. Morning Glory leaves are FANTASTIC for insect bites/stings. And I heard somewhere (but I don't know this to be fact) that the flower was once-upon-a-time used as some sort of drug. Better Google that last one to make sure I'm not repeating an old wives tale.



I don't know everything there is to know about morning glories, so I don't know if this'll work, but I DO know that cinnamon oil+garlic+salt+water will kill the hell out of any weed I've ever used it on.
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Sis, what are the ratios for that recipe?



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You can box them up & send them to me. I can line them on the fence side of the neighbors we don't like. They ripped up their lawn to get rid of dandilions. Sucks when I mow my lawn & all those white seeds go blowing over into their yard. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistling.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistling:' />



Actually I like morning glory's, I know they are bad for gardens though. So you can send some to me to replant, I have a place out back I can put them. They remind me of my grandmother for some reason.
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Otter I feel your pain. The dang things vine up all over the plants if left unattended. So in other words can't help ya except pull em outta the ground as soon as ya see them. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wallbash.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wallbash:' />



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#7
I used weed killer all around my garden last year. I worked my butt off getting the to die off before they went to seed. The seed is not my problem it is the root that they tend to spring from this year.



Kell, I would LOVE to send them ALL to you. I do not think UPS will allow over 75 lbs. Trust me I have tons of them. Plant Rose of Sharron along the fence, but if you want to piss them off I will gladly ship some.



Sister Wolf, what is the ratio on that mix?



Thanks for all of the info y'all.



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#8
Just a quick note on the cinnamon oil... take care because it'll burn the CRAP out of you if you use straight essential oil. We use it to make potpourri and it blistered my granddaughter's finger one year.



Starwest Botanicals and San Francisco Herb Company are two good places to get herbs, essential oils (SW), and other yummies, including dried elderberries and dried foods (SFHC). If you live in Oregon, or can give an Oregon address, you don't need a business license to order wholesale for Starwest.



Morning Glories are also called bindweed. I also found this on the internet, and it seems this lady has a handle on it:



The garden was almost covered in bindweed when I bought my house. After 2-3 years of persistantly weeding away, 90% of the plants have not returned! My secret (not commercial chemicals) is to beat them at their own game.



1. Weed in spring, before flowers appear (they produce hundreds of seeds a season!)

2. Weed before, during and after your garden areas are planned out, turned and settled down. This keeps any bindweed pieces or seeds that end up deeply buried (due to tilling) dormant.

3. Weeding technique-very important! Weed while soil is moist and workable (late spring). I know this sounds laborious, but it works: Using a dandelion weeder tool, dig along main roots of weed carefully uprooting down to 12" or more. I've used a (long nosed) root shovel for large clumps, if necessary.

4. Remove even the smallest of bindweeds before the roots have developed.

5. If you see bindweed flowers in the summer, rip out flowering vines immediately, if you don't have time to dig them out. Don't miss one day--seeds, seeds, seeds...

6. Do not put removed weeds in compost, get them off your property (the dump) before the picked vines set seed.

7. These weeds do not do well in continual drought, keep the area on the dry side if you can't weed them right away.



Finally, realize that 2-3 years of ruthless weeding will almost eradicate this plant, and pay back time down the road for me was worth it. At the least, getting rid of newly formed flowers (i.e., seeds!) can prevent a new generation of this weed. Note that certain animal manures have bindweed seeds in them, so find out what they're grazing. (do a test plot) Unfortunately, newly tilled areas may awaken dormant seeds in years to come. Once germinated, weed at once. After a couple years, you should have bindweed, or any other weed treated in this manner, under control.




Lastly, you might try what Joe does for blackberries... he cuts them WAY down in the Fall, then in the Spring when they first start coming up, he cut it and shoots Roundup ONLY ON THE TINY PLANT STEM ITSELF. This is time consuming, yes, but they never come back up.



Bindweed does have some medicinal properties so you may not want to completely eradicate it in case TSHTF, but keep a small patch for your own use:



http://www.liveandfeel.com/medicinalplan...dweed.html





Good luck!
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#9
On the weed killer? I just use a spray bottle about 3/4's full of water, with a bunch of garlic juice in it, about 1/4 cup of salt (I'm guessing, I just eyeball it), and an eyedropper full of cinnamon oil.



I shake it up, and voila. Just do NOT spray it on your regular plants. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />



You can buy something like it (minus the garlic and salt) at any garden center, in the organic weed control section. That's where I got the idea. The thing is - garlic juice kills aphids. I wanted something that would kill aphids AND kill the plants. So I made my own, and added salt for good measure (to firmly kill the plants, and screw with the bugs more by acting like a surfactant).
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