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Does Anyone Really Believe The News Anymore?
#31
I like the phrases the media publish, such as: There is more gold in the ground than has ever been recovered: HOW DO THEY KNOW?

Or: No one in a city is ever more than ten foot from a live rat! How do they know?

They do not, but I read it and am looking around for this hidden rat I am not ten feet away from. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
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#32
I actually used the phrase, "The truth is out there" in a pop essay quiz in Philosophy 101. I forgot to read the chapter and had to write an essay on "What is truth?"



I did not know what the professor was expecting for an answer. I also did not know how to use hypnotic language patterns from the Milton Model for persuasion, though I did know how to use them for trance induction.



I have no idea what I wrote, just that it was a bunch of nonsense filled with hypnotic language patterns and the professor would not likely be able to read it without going into trance. I ended it with "...you will find the truth because the truth is out there."



I got either an A or B, and this was a class where you really had to know the answers to get credit. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away. An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as the king can." Benjamin Martin, The Patriot
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#33
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488007589' post='612770']

I like the phrases the media publish, such as: There is more gold in the ground than has ever been recovered: HOW DO THEY KNOW?

Or: No one in a city is ever more than ten foot from a live rat! How do they know?

They do not, but I read it and am looking around for this hidden rat I am not ten feet away from.
<img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />/>/>

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Well, Limey, that is precisely why you should always carry around with you a large, healthy, aggressive, rat hating cat! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, captain, clipper ship, 1830s.)
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#34
Breitbart, the Rebel, Info Wars......kind of tell the truth



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but you got to fact check when you can, and sometimes watch the opposite ones...to see what manipulation they are spinning these days...I watch them all (the far left ones just to laugh and remind myself about their "ways") re: orange filters



but the above 3 are the most reliable sources I have found.....



edit: and even then, with those 3 you got to fact check



AOC
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

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#35
[quote name='adapt-overcome-conquer' timestamp='1488049157' post='612780']

Breitbart, the Rebel, Info Wars......kind of tell the truth



[Image: rolleyes.gif]



but you got to fact check when you can, and sometimes watch the opposite ones...to see what manipulation they are spinning these days...I watch them all (the far left ones just to laugh and remind myself about their "ways") re: orange filters



but the above 3 are the most reliable sources I have found.....



edit: and even then, with those 3 you got to fact check



AOC

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You CAN'T be serious.





Lynne





I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, keep me here!

With my luck, when my "ship comes in", I'll be at the airport...

"Look at things not with the eyes in your face but with the eyes in your heart."  (Leonard Crow Dog)
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#36
Here are a few additional thoughts on "real news."





Even ignoring obvious propaganda, on subjects I know, I often see major mistakes, some of them even humorous, showing that the reporter had no idea what he or she was writing about. It would be like a teacher assigning a book report and the student asking a person who's friend told him about the movie, and then writing as if that was the actual story.



I've also seen major mistakes or deliberate fabrications on events I witnessed.



Considering that they are almost always wrong on subjects I know, I wonder how accurate they are on subjects I don't know.



I don't think they lie about the weather, sports scores, or what celebrity is acting in what movie.



Things like Yahoo news are even worse than print and TV media when it comes to accuracy or even relevance. Their attention-grabbing headlines lead to articles that can barely justify such headlines.





MSNBC has created a lot of chaos and violence with their fake news story on the Martin/Zimmerman case, selectively editing the police call to make it look like Zimmerman was calling just because he saw someone who looked black and wore a hoodie. The mainstream media also lightened Zimmerman and were calling him "white" until people learned he was Mestizo, and in most cases they'd just call someone like him "Hispanic," but not when they want to create black vs white rage.
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away. An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as the king can." Benjamin Martin, The Patriot
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#37
OK I've spent too much time doing school work. I've taken a week of vacation to do a paper. Anyways I thought I would dork out and and analyze the philosophy of the news media.



Ontology: reality is not important; reality is what fits the agenda of the company owner. If it causes fear and creates division, it works.



Epistemology: Reality is created through sensationalism and negativity, repeating lies until it is accepted as truth by the mindless slaves, who watch the news that think they are free while polishing their chains.Contralateral views pose as truth to the ones who oppose the others’ opinions, allowing people to justify their version of the truth, thus creating further divisions.



"If you save one life you are a hero. If you save 100 lives you are a nurse." Unknown










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#38
[quote name='Benjamin Liu' timestamp='1488065583' post='612785']

Here are a few additional thoughts on "real news."





Even ignoring obvious propaganda, on subjects I know, I often see major mistakes, some of them even humorous, showing that the reporter had no idea what he or she was writing about. It would be like a teacher assigning a book report and the student asking a person who's friend told him about the movie, and then writing as if that was the actual story.



I've also seen major mistakes or deliberate fabrications on events I witnessed.



Considering that they are almost always wrong on subjects I know, I wonder how accurate they are on subjects I don't know.



I don't think they lie about the weather, sports scores, or what celebrity is acting in what movie.



Things like Yahoo news are even worse than print and TV media when it comes to accuracy or even relevance. Their attention-grabbing headlines lead to articles that can barely justify such headlines.





MSNBC has created a lot of chaos and violence with their fake news story on the Martin/Zimmerman case, selectively editing the police call to make it look like Zimmerman was calling just because he saw someone who looked black and wore a hoodie. The mainstream media also lightened Zimmerman and were calling him "white" until people learned he was Mestizo, and in most cases they'd just call someone like him "Hispanic," but not when they want to create black vs white rage.

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It's funny you mention media not lying about the weather. I remember one summer it rained almost every weekend. the weather report always said the weather would be clear. It was later found that the weather reports were fabricated to try to lift peoples moods. Of course this was reported by the media that purportedly broadcasted the fake forecasts, so who knows if the reporting of lies was fabricated as well. Who knows, maybe to prove that weather is totally predictable, but its not a good idea to let that be known. So it continues.
"If you save one life you are a hero. If you save 100 lives you are a nurse." Unknown










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#39
I did not expect that. Of course I expected them to make mistakes in prediction, since weather prediction is not exact. I guess I trusted them to much. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />



I might depend on the area. I think bad weather predictions would boost ratings, at least if the weather is predicted to be dangerous, since people would be more likely to watch it.
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away. An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as the king can." Benjamin Martin, The Patriot
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#40
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488007589' post='612770']

I like the phrases the media publish, such as: There is more gold in the ground than has ever been recovered: HOW DO THEY KNOW?

Or: No one in a city is ever more than ten foot from a live rat! How do they know?

They do not, but I read it and am looking around for this hidden rat I am not ten feet away from. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />/>

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Well, if you're in Thailand, check someone's stomach, because they probably ate it.
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#41
Having spent 9 1/2 years in Air Force weather, I can tell you, weather is VERY hard to accurately predict. A lot is predicted using mathematical products such as the MM5 model, or the NGM model (affectionately referred to as the "No Good Model "). And there are LOTS of variables that you have to decide which will hit an area first, or have the biggest impact on the area, ect ........





Oh, and the first ever accurate prediction of a tornado was by Air Force weather at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma. But it was decided that telling the public would cause panic, so they battened down the base, and said nothing. It was hit by a F-3 tornado that caused MAJOR damage and loss of life.
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#42
Yes they do eat rats in Thailand Boomhar. The country rats who are wild and eat rice. These are supposed to be disease free, and healthy.

I would eat one if I had the chance.

To tell the truth, which I always do, I don't need to look at weather forecasts.

I know when it is going to rain because the shrapnel in have in my leg from the Falklands war starts giving me pain.

I was a captain in the SAS charging an Argie machine gun post at the time and one of them threw a grenade at me.

Well being a skilled soccer player, I could have played for Manchester United but could not be bothered, I headed the grenade down to my boot and kicked it back at the Argies.

The grenade went off killing then all but a sliver came back at me and pieced my leg.

I did not even notice it at the time and went on to win the Victoria cross, which I refused because I didn't want a fuss.

Anyway, later I noticed I was bleeding. I put a Elastoplast on it and forgot about it.

Still, when it is about to rain I can feel the twinges with the shrapnel.

I agree with the other posters on this thread, they are so many liars in the media, it is a scandal!!!



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"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#43
[quote name='Leanwolf' timestamp='1488043928' post='612776']

[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488007589' post='612770']

I like the phrases the media publish, such as: There is more gold in the ground than has ever been recovered: HOW DO THEY KNOW?

Or: No one in a city is ever more than ten foot from a live rat! How do they know?

They do not, but I read it and am looking around for this hidden rat I am not ten feet away from.
<img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />/>/>/>

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Well, Limey, that is precisely why you should always carry around with you a large, healthy, aggressive, rat hating cat! <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>/>



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Yes Leanwolf I knew a railroad tramp that travelled with a cat for that very reason. Er, Dick was his name. That's it Dick Wittington.

He went on to do very well in politics.





<img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#44
I believe the fake news is fake!😁
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#45
[quote name='livesalone' timestamp='1488064266' post='612784']

[quote name='adapt-overcome-conquer' timestamp='1488049157' post='612780']

Breitbart, the Rebel, Info Wars......kind of tell the truth



[Image: rolleyes.gif]



but you got to fact check when you can, and sometimes watch the opposite ones...to see what manipulation they are spinning these days...I watch them all (the far left ones just to laugh and remind myself about their "ways") re: orange filters



but the above 3 are the most reliable sources I have found.....



edit: and even then, with those 3 you got to fact check



AOC

[/quote]





You CAN'T be serious.





Lynne







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Oh yes, I am totally serious. no joke. I know you consider yourself left of center (Bernie right?) so it would not surprise me if you did not hold the above mentioned sources in high regard [Image: biggrin.gif]



and thats ok, we have the right to disagree, and I can still respect you as a person. Plus, I mentioned before: I am not a right wing flag waver...I mean I only vote or call myself a conservative/right/republican because that is the only logical choice here in Canada (what I mean is their agenda/values are the closest aligned with mine...the left's policies here are IMO insane.) If I was in the states, Id be considering Libertarian seriously....except for their blasted irresponsible foreign policy...





AOC



"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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