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Does Anyone Really Believe The News Anymore?
#46
[quote name='TN RIDGE ROVER' timestamp='1488099664' post='612798']

I believe the fake news is fake!😁

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Ya Bro to the stick had very valid points, Ben Lui--everyone really....including you Ronnie...you put it simply...seems these days EVERY news is fake in some way or another...I think it got really rampant after some high court ruled the news isn't obligated to tell the truth...truth is what people want it to be...LOL[Image: rolleyes.gif]



I have started to notice all the little tidbits of information that are included when not relevant, bits of info that are edited or left out on purpose and think back to this little gem....well i see it EVERYWHERE now



THE RULES OF DISINFORMANTION--THE POLITICIAN'S CREDO Note:

The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the organized crime syndicate we know as government.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know,don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc.If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant./ Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as beingcritical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers./ Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges,regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you canassociate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a"wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man./ Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation,or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify theirsignificance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all thecharges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule./ This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify asvariants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles suchas "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists","conspiracybuffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexualdeviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fearof gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run./ In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can befielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internetand letters-to -the-editor environments where a steady stream of newidentities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning-- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.





7. Question motives./ Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken toimply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or otherbias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority./ Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and "minutiae" toillustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb./ No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered,avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make anysense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a....ect ect
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#47
You should be a politician AOC - you known the skills required. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#48
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488255577' post='612823']

You should be a politician AOC - you known the skills required. [Image: tongue.gif]

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Yes actually, as you can see by my mature and understanding reply to Lynne's comment...I would make a good politician and I have been invited to run for politics in my hometown......numerous times [Image: rolleyes.gif]





BUT I WOULD NEVER! in a bizzilion years for a bizzilliion dollars ever do that. The pre requisite is you have to be a liar, thats not me....plus I am pretty sure you cant have a heart, brain or soul. You have to be prepared to run over everybody and put your personal morals and values on the back burner....NEVER I SAY!





plus there is ALOT of dirt floating around out there on me, if I am just AOC nobody cares--if I am a politician-they would use it to ruin me in the public eye. Then I cant say what I want to.....or do what I want to and it is for no higher purpose---BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW POLITICIANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING THEIR HANDLERS SAY THEY CANT DO [Image: biggrin.gif] they are told like a child......I dont like being told---I like doing the telling limey!





AOC
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#49
[quote name='adapt-overcome-conquer' timestamp='1488465307' post='612833']

Yes actually, as you can see by my mature and understanding reply to Lynne's comment...I would make a good politician and I have been invited to run for politics in my hometown......numerous times [Image: rolleyes.gif]





BUT I WOULD NEVER! in a bizzilion years for a bizzilliion dollars ever do that. The pre requisite is you have to be a liar, thats not me....plus I am pretty sure you cant have a heart, brain or soul. You have to be prepared to run over everybody and put your personal morals and values on the back burner....NEVER I SAY! AOC [/quote]



Not only the microscopic scrutiny of oneself, but also that of their families, keeps a lot of good people from running for political office. The sad part is many of those who will not run for office, are exactly the ones we need running as politicians and governing this country.
Jimbo
If everything is a case for gun control, then nothing is. - Charles C. W. Cooke

Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. - Theodore Roosevelt 1907 
Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave the country.  - Theodore Roosevelt 1918

The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein
I fear the day that technology surpass our human interaction.  The world will have a generation of idiots. - Albert Einstein

The optomist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears that this is true! - James B. Cabell
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#50
When running for office, your past does not matter in the media. What matters is whether you are a degenerate communist SJW or not. If you are, nothing you do short of killing people while campaigning will turn them against you. If you oppose such agendas, they'll find some minor discussion you had years ago and blow it out of proportion, or make something up, like the made-up Romney bullying incident. They'll take anything you say out of context, and even use a person who says he supports you who says something stupid as ammunition against you.



One important part of the Trump victory is that he took these scum on and beat them, at least during the election. If things work out, this can be the beginning of the end for these propagandists and their supposed "independent" press. What type of moron thinks a media establishment owned by a handful of people to be independent?
"Why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away. An elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as the king can." Benjamin Martin, The Patriot
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#51
[quote name='Benjamin Liu' timestamp='1488511158' post='612841']If things work out, this can be the beginning of the end for these propagandists and their supposed "independent" press. What type of moron thinks a media establishment owned by a handful of people to be independent? [/quote]



I truly hope and pray you are correct, Benjamin.



I firmly believe President Trump is a Second Chance for this nation, IF NOT a Last Chance. I hope he is the former, rather than the latter, but IF he can turn things around and Mike Pence can follow through on his beginning, maybe, just maybe this country can truly be really great again, and we can be proud of it.
Jimbo
If everything is a case for gun control, then nothing is. - Charles C. W. Cooke

Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. - Theodore Roosevelt 1907 
Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave the country.  - Theodore Roosevelt 1918

The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein
I fear the day that technology surpass our human interaction.  The world will have a generation of idiots. - Albert Einstein

The optomist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears that this is true! - James B. Cabell
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#52
[quote name='adapt-overcome-conquer' timestamp='1488465307' post='612833']



I would make a good politician and I have been invited to run for politics in my hometown......numerous times



BUT I WOULD NEVER!



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Someone has to & if you don't it leaves a vacuum others will fill. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />



Eternal vigilance & effective engagement is the only viable defence - you can only change the system from the inside IMO <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':banana:' />



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqui_Lambie



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson



<img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />
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#53
[quote name='adapt-overcome-conquer' timestamp='1488465307' post='612833']

[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488255577' post='612823']

You should be a politician AOC - you known the skills required. [Image: tongue.gif]

[/quote]



Yes actually, as you can see by my mature and understanding reply to Lynne's comment...I would make a good politician and I have been invited to run for politics in my hometown......numerous times [Image: rolleyes.gif]





BUT I WOULD NEVER! in a bizzilion years for a bizzilliion dollars ever do that. The pre requisite is you have to be a liar, thats not me....plus I am pretty sure you cant have a heart, brain or soul. You have to be prepared to run over everybody and put your personal morals and values on the back burner....NEVER I SAY!





plus there is ALOT of dirt floating around out there on me, if I am just AOC nobody cares--if I am a politician-they would use it to ruin me in the public eye. Then I cant say what I want to.....or do what I want to and it is for no higher purpose---BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW POLITICIANS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING THEIR HANDLERS SAY THEY CANT DO [Image: biggrin.gif] they are told like a child......I dont like being told---I like doing the telling limey!





AOC

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Well why not try being a councilor in the local government, and if you do ok at that, try for something better, and then later better with more power, until eventually be master of the world, and then the Universe!

Er, just a suggestion AOC. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#54
Er AOC, if you become a great politician, and take over the world, you will not forget your good friend Lime Pete will you?

A nice little government job, such as minister for welfare of wayward girls would do nicely. Half a million a year and expenses would be enough for me AOC.





? <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#55
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488614349' post='612862']



Half a million a year and expenses would be enough for me AOC.



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Are you sure you haven't become a Buddhist Pete? <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />



That is a remarkably modest request, given your priceless contribution <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' /> <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wink3:' />
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#56
[quote name='Deerstalker' timestamp='1488634669' post='612864']

[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488614349' post='612862']



Half a million a year and expenses would be enough for me AOC.



[/quote]



Are you sure you haven't become a Buddhist Pete? <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />/>



That is a remarkably modest request, given your priceless contribution <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/> <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wink3:' />/>

[/quote]



Ah but you do not know what my expenses will be Deerstalker.

If Pres Trump has a private jet, 1 want a private jet. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#57
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488702099' post='612872']



If Pres Trump has a private jet, 1 want a private jet. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />



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If it was up to me, you'd have one already Pete <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />
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#58
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488614349' post='612862']

Er AOC, if you become a great politician, and take over the world, you will not forget your good friend Lime Pete will you?

A nice little government job, such as minister for welfare of wayward girls would do nicely. Half a million a year and expenses would be enough for me AOC.





? [Image: huh.gif]

[/quote]



[Image: laugh.gif][Image: laugh.gif] I think we can work something out Limey--that salary sounds reasonable to me. Ill appoint you minister of foreign affairs and you can spend the winters in Cambodia, Thailand...recruiting and helping the way ward women[Image: kiss.gif]





AOC (thats Prime minister AOC now)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#59
Er, AOC, if you become master of the Universe, can I have the mineral rights for the moon? <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Huh' />

Deerstalker, if I have a private jet to use, you can be sure that there will be a job for you on board as a steward.



Remind me of the time I was in a pub in England, and this fellow was telling us what he would give us, his true friends, if he won the lottery.

It so happened there was a pub raffle ticket sale on that night, which is similar to a lottery, and this fellow won $15!

When they gave him the money he suddenly was struck dumb, and we piped up, come on, go to the bar and a pint each for your true friends. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#60
[quote name='Limey Pete' timestamp='1488787886' post='612887']

Er, AOC, if you become master of the Universe, can I have the mineral rights for the moon? [Image: huh.gif]

Deerstalker, if I have a private jet to use, you can be sure that there will be a job for you on board as a steward.



Remind me of the time I was in a pub in England, and this fellow was telling us what he would give us, his true friends, if he won the lottery.

It so happened there was a pub raffle ticket sale on that night, which is similar to a lottery, and this fellow won $15!

When they gave him the money he suddenly was struck dumb, and we piped up, come on, go to the bar and a pint each for your true friends. [Image: tongue.gif]

[/quote]



[Image: laugh.gif][Image: laugh.gif] why how generous of you Limey--to appoint Deerstalker to the position of Steward [Image: tongue.gif]



so did this fellow show his true loyalty and generosity with a pint?
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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