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Straightening A Staff
#1
I just took the inner cambium off a 6 foot Oak staff that I am working on. It is a sapling, and I have not cut through the outer ring under the bark. Before I varnish it...



There are bends in it, including some "switchbacks" right on big knots (there are a lot of knots!).



Does anyone straighten their staves? If so, how? I have done steam and heat straightening for arrows, but there are a few other problems here:



1. The pores are long and wide in the wood, and look like the outer ring might start to "split" if I get it wet.

2. I am afraid to get the wood wet for splitting in general.

3. I really don't want to compromise overall strength by bending it or heating it improperly.



One more thing...if you wanted an evenly weighted staff side-to-side would you cut through the rings on the thicker side or add weight to the lighter side (cudgel rings!)? Something tells me that cutting through rings on one part of the staff is a bad idea for strength (You wouldn't do it on a bow).



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Thanks,



Mako
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#2
No steam is needed. No need to wet it.

Heat over a fire and bend just a little tiny bit at a time.

Oak responds just fine to heat so you can bend it. No need to over complicate it.

Just put pressure on a bit at a time, reheat and repeat until you have where you want it.



How crooked is it?

I leave a lot of the bends in my staffs. Adds to the look I think.

I dont think it will make the oak weaker.



EDIT ::: now the picture comes up .. I wouldnt bother doing anything to it other than getting the look you want.

Dude...yer6bud
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#3
Mako,



As Dude said: "No need to over complicate it."



Write that on your back a hundred times!



<somebody grab a camera!>



Muddyboots
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Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



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#4
I have a few Sasfrass staffs that I am working on this winter and I will try this. I don't have to worry about the character of the staff since the vines have done such a great job of adding all of the character that is needed. when I figure out how to post pic's I will gladly show them off.

Little Otter.
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#5
[quote name='Muddyboots' post='313852' date='Dec 30 2008, 05:25 PM']Mako,



As Dude said: "No need to over complicate it."



Write that on your back a hundred times!



<somebody grab a camera!>



Muddyboots[/quote]



You have no idea how flexible I am. Just you wait...



But seriously... Thanks! <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Mako
"The first law...should be nailed on every cot. The first law. This world's job is to take everything from you. Yours is not to let it."   -Woman and Scarecrow

If I never had to use my intellect again, I wouldn't mind.

A real survival board game!?
sixmilehomestead.com
#6
Mako, I had a hornbeam staff I made that looked a lot like that. My advice is to get oiling it now to stop checking at the knots. It's straight enough for me.



My staff was fine and solid (still is as far as I know, I gifted it many a moon ago to a young lady fresh out of the broom closet), but those little checks bothered my pride.
Men are, that they might have joy.
#7
There is another way to straighten a staff but only so many of us look good in lace and thongs <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
Remember some people are alive simply because it is illegal to shoot them.



A liar and a thief are one and the same.. A liar steals the truth.
#8
L'Otter,



You haven't been to a Hoodlum meet yet.



Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#9
[quote name='Little Otter' post='313868' date='Dec 30 2008, 06:45 PM']There is another way to straighten a staff but only so many of us look good in lace and thongs <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />[/quote]





You are so right..so few of us indeed!! later Luke
 " Survival is not mandatory" Norseman DT 08

#10
I rest my case.











[center]Image: Swede in lace & thong[/center]















Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#11
Thongs do fall in the Hoodlum class of things they do have multi-uses....you know slingshot...etc.. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
- Woodsmaster -



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#12
[quote name='Little Otter' post='313868' date='Dec 30 2008, 07:45 PM']There is another way to straighten a staff but only so many of us look good in lace and thongs <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />[/quote]



Hey Now !! <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Blush' />



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#13
mako...this site will/may give you some ideas on how to "dress up" your staff





[url="http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/skills/b-p/staff.htm"]http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/skills/b-p/staff.htm[/url]
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