Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
What Is "survival?"
#16
[quote name='90north' post='251278' date='Jun 12 2008, 10:01 PM']Hardly unique, it was printed in 1999, lots of things change in 9 yrs. [/quote]





90north:



Ah, very unique, my friend. This article is a compilation of answers to an earlier compilation of questions that were posed to the author over a period of time. That makes it unique.



It answers questions from the viewpoint of the author and that viewpoint is founded on the individual and collected experiences of the writer. Unique again.



Those experiences, when coupled with attitudes and preferences developed by the author over the years, led him to his personal responses to selected and repeated questions. Very, very unique.



The relevance of 1999 and/or "9 years" and the changes they can make eludes me. Do we not continue to use centerfire or rimfire cartridges? Are there not still lands and grooves inside barrels that leads us to call long guns "rifles?"



My belief is that whatever changes may have occured over the past 9 years or so largely fall into the categories of metallurgy (or the lack thereof) and payloads. What monumental changes might be observed that would reasonably marginalize the opinions given in the article cited above?



[quote name='90north' post='251278' date='Jun 12 2008, 10:01 PM']...This is close to survival with firearms 100.

[/quote]





Bravo. Good Term.



Cope Reynolds offers simple opinions based on experience posed as simple answers to collected questions.



"Simple."



"Opinion."



These are simple summary responses based on educated opinion and at no time did I understand them to be, or suggest they were, exhaustive.



<img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink3.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wink3:' />
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

--C.S. Lewis



At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities.

--Lord Acton



The ultimate consequence of protecting men from the results of their own folly is to fill the world with fools.

--Herbert Spencer



Fusion Center operatives are nothing short of collaborators in the death of Freedom

--Robert E. Gleason









[indent] [/indent]
#17
[quote name='steve_n' post='251285' date='Jun 12 2008, 09:21 PM']To reinforce this idea, I saw a show on SEAL techniques where they took turns laying down covering fire as they peeled off. The strategy was, again, to lay down a buttload of lead while escaping. ....[/quote]



Australian Peel, i believe is what you are describing.



they quit doing it, last i heard.



vec
#18
Quote:Looks like the barb I planted got you in the heart. I apologize for that.



Not so much. It was actually your clumsy attempt at manipulation that caught my attention.
Hope is for the lazy....



"Doing better next time. That's what life is." - The Bloody Nine
#19
Vec,



The peel is still in the tool box. There are better techniques like team overwatch, but hey, linear is linear!



Speaking of bounding overwatch, I'm with you Ouchie.



Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#20
I have taken a class from "Suarez International" and found it decidedly sub-par when compared to either Blackwater and/or Thunder Ranch. In my view this article is just a re-hash of things Mel Tappen first wrote about in his 70's book "Survival Guns". As far as members on this board being "survivalists", well guess that term could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. This was prepared during the lead up to Y2K, lots of people were forecasting TEOTWAWKI, starting the second week in January you could score some good deals on "survival gear", Suarez International was just milking the hype and fear of the general population. Why would you want to cache a firearm? Protect it if your house burns down/or thieves. I've got a really good fireproof gun safe that beats PVC pipe all to pieces. Worried about JBT's with blue UN helmets? Highly, I would say totally, unlikely. As far as caches, lots have been written about them, how to hide them, how to relocate them, what to put in them. I think most people have gotten away from random caches. Items stored at your bug out location, yes. But when you bug out you need to have everything you need with you. If you live in a urban/suburban area, get a map and a compass (the metal one with a pencil). Draw a 1/2 mile circle from your home, how many potential cache sites can you locate? In closing, I think most people have moved past his writings and to be frank, find his article basic and boring.
#21
90North,



Thank you for your thoughtful reply.



Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#22
Wow... what a string...



I'm just a lowley former ARMY MP SSG... back in the mid and late 80's I was introduced to SRT/SWAT training and learned one thing early on... there are as many theories on how to do things as there are theorists... listen intently, take notes and when you get back to your ready room, figure out what works best for you and your team... remember the ideas that don't fit and WHY... the ideas rejected may not "fit your team" but they also may help support why you do what you do.



I humbly note I have never attended any of those schools mentioned above and can only summize that those who have attended Black water and Thunderranch have not only the resources but time to not only attend, but invest in top of the line gear and equipment. May I please ask that when you folks who are more educated and better trained than ?some of us? drop us "initiates" a few hints as to smart/cheap investments, until such time as we can bulster our log supplies.



you know, Shot gun news, Campmore, Tarus USA, Cheaper than Dirt

vs

Franchi, Benelli, REI, North Face, Patagonia etc.



I do want to thank Hoods Woods and the Posse again for manning and supporting the forum. I have taken alot away and hopefully left a few nuggets for us newbies who are trying to survive Suburbia while trying to prepare for whatever disaster or geo-political nighmare we might find ourselves.



Humbly



tr
TR



"Preparedness isn't an illness, it's insurance!"



A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.'
#23
I attended Blackwater in the late 90's, my firearms were a S&W 4586, a Remington 870, and a Ruger Mini-14. All police issue, along with the issue belt/holster/ assorted gear a police officer used then. I attended SI using a H&K USP in .45 ACP, with my issue belt and magazine pouches, and issue boots. I did splurge on some 511 trousers and a no name long sleeve work shirt. For the pistol course at Thunder Ranch, I used a Glock 19, with night sights, a San Pedro Saddlery pancake holster, a two magazine generic pouch, and a double thick pistol belt from a maker whose name I forgot. My department paid for Blackwater, and part of the cost to SI. Thunder Ranch I paid for myself, I've used my issue gear on all my assignments, factory magazines, and almost stock firearms. I did buy my own flashlights though. Of course I had "Law Enforcement Only" magazines for my mini-14 but my 870 was box stock. No folding stock, extended magazines, side saddle, or lights. Both my USP and Glock have night sights on them. I was fortunate to belong to a department that believed in training and had the money to send us to various schools, not all of them "driving fast and shooting a lot". I admit I took advantage of every chance I had to go to schools. I remember some really nice equipment, but none of it did anything more than mine did. I guess I just never thought much about my gear, made due with what I had.


Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)