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Distance Between You And The Car In Front
#16
[quote name='Grizzly Dave' timestamp='1387481284' post='585752']

Why not let someone trying to get into traffic into the laneway ahead of you?

Sometimes they even wave thanks <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />

Griz

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I'm with you Dave.......



I've never heard of a car jacking round here......you'd have to go to Papua New Guinea for one of those . <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />
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#17
[quote name='--ML' timestamp='1391651967' post='587725']



I want to see how someone defends this behavior when it's caught by a forward-looking video camera like the one I have in my car, and which are becoming so much more common. While tactics like this sound clever on the Net, they'll leave you open to thousands of dollars of liability in a court of law. Has anyone here checked to see if their insurance policies cover the repercussions of such actions?



--ML

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Don't have to. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> I'd bet it would be at least vandalism, and possibly some form of deadly assault. If it caused a wreck and injury or death, one could lose everything he has and end up in prison.



Caveat: I'm no attorney, blah, blah....



Thanks for pointing this viewpoint out to us, ML.

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#18
[quote name='Muddyboots' timestamp='1391651463' post='587723']

The greater NY metro area is very aggressive in driving style. Several of the expressways can look like parking lots, literally a couple feet between bumpers... At 70 MPH!!!You aren't worried about car jacking, you are worried about contact. Very few vehicle based assaults happen here.the most common car jack is late at night in outer Burroughs when people WALK up at a light.

Muddyboots [/quote]



Substitute "Los Angeles" for "New York metro area" in 'Boots' post and you have the same thing. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' />



L.W.
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#19
[quote name='--ML' timestamp='1391651967' post='587725'] While tactics like this sound clever on the Net, they'll leave you open to thousands of dollars of liability in a court of law. Has anyone here checked to see if their insurance policies cover the repercussions of such actions?



--ML

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Insurance does not cover any intentional tort.
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#20
Here are some ideas on countering physical surveillance.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7g6-_d4...MMGEa2SXPw
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#21
[quote name='Bill Hay' timestamp='1393717724' post='588599']

[quote name='--ML' timestamp='1391651967' post='587725']



I want to see how someone defends this behavior when it's caught by a forward-looking video camera like the one I have in my car, and which are becoming so much more common. While tactics like this sound clever on the Net, they'll leave you open to thousands of dollars of liability in a court of law. Has anyone here checked to see if their insurance policies cover the repercussions of such actions?



--ML

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Don't have to. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />/> I'd bet it would be at least vandalism, and possibly some form of deadly assault. If it caused a wreck and injury or death, one could lose everything he has and end up in prison.



Caveat: I'm no attorney, blah, blah....



Thanks for pointing this viewpoint out to us, ML.

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I am an attorney. I'll bet Misanthrope will also back me up on this. You can't do this. Ever. You're dropping something out of your car with the intent that it cause damage to another's car, at highway speeds, and acknowledged that you know/hope that it might hit their windshield. Reckless endangerment is probably the least you could hope for, and if anyone got injured I see criminal intent going up to manslaughter. The civil case would be absurdly easy. Even worse is if your bouncing ball bearing bounces the wrong way and hits another biker or a car in a different lane.
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#22
Ever have a 2 ton car a few feet from your rear tire of your motorcycle at 70-80 mph? Can't slow down, going faster ain't much of an option either, switching lanes results in them switching lanes, and it distracts you from paying attention to the road in front of you. They are putting your life in danger. Fuck 'em - lucky if they get ball bearings, they deserve worse. If I am reasonably in fear for my life or of great bodily injury I'm justified in using appropriate force to end that threat - ball bearings are an equivalent of a verbal warning and I'll end it at that. As far as a front mounted camera, it will also show reasonable cause for my actions when it shows the tailgater was so close you can see the wear marks on my tires.
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