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The Long Awaited Tarp Post!
#46
Quote:Anyway, the whole point is making your own! It isn't hard and it doesn't take very long! Even Swede can do it and he runs into burning buildings





Gee thanks brother Boots..I think.. folks i fell in love with this thing at perdenales falls..the pics dont do it justice..its awesome ..even room for us chunky fellas..that said..i am not going to try to make one..i learned my lesson with the hammock fiasco..but there might be some steel calling your name if one like you use all of a sudden had my name on it..That is if i can keep from cutting off anything important..awesome tutorial..later Luke
 " Survival is not mandatory" Norseman DT 08

#47
Muddy, finally made the time to read it all through. Great stuff. Been thinking about tarps a lot, and now you've gone and made it so damn kewl!
Freedom--to be a fool or only thought one, to do well or to do poorly, with only one restraint known as accountability--is the best that philanthopy--and sustainable civilization--have to offer. It's also what the U.S. Founders tried to create and make sustainable against the vicissitudes of collective folly.



Sworn officers, know your oath. Understand its priorities and abide by them. This is a first step in restoring proper order in our social systems...
#48
Guys, just to prove that you don't have to be talented at all to follow Muddy's instructions and make a decent Tarp Tent, here are a few pics of the one I just finished.



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The material is a diamond pattern coated ripstop. It is brown and the pull out tabs are made from coyote brown grosgrain ribbon. I used brown upholstery thread throughout on a home sewing machine. Total time of construction, including cutting was 5.5 hours (not counting the time spent pulling seams that went bad). All seams are coated using home made seam sealer. All that is left to do is a dirt time cherry blast for this piece of gear. Gee, now I have another excuse to get in some dirt time!!!
"...Bond reflected that good Americans were fine people and that most

of them seemed to come from Texas."

Casino Royale. Chapter VII
#49
Great work RCW!!!!



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Hope is for the lazy....



"Doing better next time. That's what life is." - The Bloody Nine
#50
I gotta ask Muddy...



Does the ripstop come in the camo patterns or is that like another material on top of the ripstop ??



I found some heavy outdoor material at wallyworld that was the new digi-camo, but I have a feeling it might be a bit heavy .. I know theres a fabric store in a nearby town that has just about any fabric you'd want and if not can get it ordered but just not sure of the price..



Whats the going price for the ripstop stuff, for 9 yds??
"That was the greatest shot I HAVE EVER SEEN !! "

"I was aiming for his horse !!"

- quote from "The Magnificent Seven"






"Sit tall in the saddle, Hold your head up high

Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky

And live like you ain't afraid to die

And don't be scared, just enjoy your ride"

- Chris Ledoux





"You have a choice in this country.. You can be an "ameriCAN'T", or you can be an "ameriCAN".. Until my dying days and beyond I will always be, and be known as an AMERICAN !!"



The lead lemming is nothing more than the first dumb SOB to die ... Find a better critter to emulate, before you to reach the cliff !!





"Only the good die young, so I didn't go."  Zach Dunlap(pronounced braindead 4 months ago, and alive and kicking !!)



You've either gotta "nut up", or shut up !! "Zombieland"- Woody Harrelson
#51
The prices I've found are between $6.95 and $10.95, per yard, depending on weight and coatings.



The only type that I've found in camouflage wasn't coated but I did see some coated fabrics in subdued colors like tan, black, olive green, and of course all kinds of bright colors.



[url="http://www.denverfabrics.com/"]http://www.denverfabrics.com/[/url]



[url="http://www.ahh.biz/products/Silk-iene%20Silicone%20Coated%20Nylon%20Ripstop.htm"]http://www.ahh.biz/[/url]



[url="http://www.seattlefabrics.com/nylons.html"]http://www.seattlefabrics.com/nylons.html[/url]



I've been eyeballing these places for about a year now because I've been wanting to build myself a shelter of some kind, just didn't have any idea what kind, where to find the pattern or anything else.



Hmmm...Looks like that excuse is gone now. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' />



Not sure if I'm brave enough to tackle this one yet, but now I have a pattern and directions when I'm ready.





Thanks for the great post, Muddyboots! <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
"Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden



كافر
#52
Thanks again, Muddy..... just ordered the Campmore 22220 5-minutes ago.



I also plan to get base tarp & follow your pattern. I gave my wife the printed directions & asked if she'd sew it for me..... & just about melted under the 'look'..... <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' /> ....just asked to tease her. Never having done any sewing of material before, & never used a machine, this should be quite an adventure - looking forward to it.



Putting my money on the grandkid getting the Campmore for his birthday. It all depends if I get hit by any sewing dumbassity during the process



Ratel102
Tuum nosce hostem. Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.
#53
So Muddy where'd you find your camo pattern tarps ?? Or is that some cloth you treated and then have the ripstop material underneath , or what??
"That was the greatest shot I HAVE EVER SEEN !! "

"I was aiming for his horse !!"

- quote from "The Magnificent Seven"






"Sit tall in the saddle, Hold your head up high

Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky

And live like you ain't afraid to die

And don't be scared, just enjoy your ride"

- Chris Ledoux





"You have a choice in this country.. You can be an "ameriCAN'T", or you can be an "ameriCAN".. Until my dying days and beyond I will always be, and be known as an AMERICAN !!"



The lead lemming is nothing more than the first dumb SOB to die ... Find a better critter to emulate, before you to reach the cliff !!





"Only the good die young, so I didn't go."  Zach Dunlap(pronounced braindead 4 months ago, and alive and kicking !!)



You've either gotta "nut up", or shut up !! "Zombieland"- Woody Harrelson
#54
I buy GI poncho contract woodland remnants (commercial remnants can be 20+ yards long!) You can buy camo in many places! It isn't a problem to find. As for heavier fabrics, they work fine. Anything up to about 5 oz. taslan will work. I have one nylon oxford cloth tarp that is lovingly called the tank because of it's toughness and olive color. The Gi camo up until the digital age, had a rather fast print repeat rate (under 4'!) but according to Guy Cramer, the new stuff has a repeat rate measured in 10s of yards. Oh, I've also contacted Crye about Multicam, it's in the works. Now if I could just find DPM cordura!



Here is a tip for anybody who doesn't use a tent!



Get a piece of 4-6 oz. coated pack cloth to use as a ground cloth! I like 48" X 96" (I am a carpenter after all!) You can use ripstop but it will wear fast on the ground. This ground cloth can be used for a lot of other things too! I have often put it over my stuff while setting up the tarp in the rain, or when I wanted another heat barrier and I was on nice ground (still kept the foam pad under me.)



Good job RC!



Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#55
[quote name='Muddyboots' post='196527' date='Jan 11 2008, 09:36 PM']Here is a tip for anybody who doesn't use a tent!



...



Get a piece of 4-6 oz. coated pack cloth to use as a ground cloth!



...



Muddyboots[/quote]



+ 1



also - use it with the coating UP.



vec
#56
I'll have to a google on that .. Are there any places on line that sells the remnants, and are how much heavier is it compared to ripstop ??
"That was the greatest shot I HAVE EVER SEEN !! "

"I was aiming for his horse !!"

- quote from "The Magnificent Seven"






"Sit tall in the saddle, Hold your head up high

Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky

And live like you ain't afraid to die

And don't be scared, just enjoy your ride"

- Chris Ledoux





"You have a choice in this country.. You can be an "ameriCAN'T", or you can be an "ameriCAN".. Until my dying days and beyond I will always be, and be known as an AMERICAN !!"



The lead lemming is nothing more than the first dumb SOB to die ... Find a better critter to emulate, before you to reach the cliff !!





"Only the good die young, so I didn't go."  Zach Dunlap(pronounced braindead 4 months ago, and alive and kicking !!)



You've either gotta "nut up", or shut up !! "Zombieland"- Woody Harrelson
#57
Thanks Vec! UP it is!



Well, if 1.9-2.2 Oz. rip stop weighs 1.9- 2.2 Oz. per yard[sup]2[/sup] and if 4-6 Oz. packcloth weighs 4-6 Oz. per yard[sup]2[/sup] then it weighs between 1.8 and 4.1 Oz. per yard[sup]2[/sup] more (all weights are before coating) <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tongue' />



Pack cloth, <501 denier cordura, taslan and oxford cloth ALL would work as long as they are coated. Nysil is right on out!



Be aware, you can shop like crazy and find the perfect remnant, cheap and then pay more for shipping than you would have if you bought grade A locally.





Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#58
for my first attempt I ordered 7 yard of coated (blackout) ACU with a backing that seems to be a black version of a silicone coating, however this is not specified on the website. This stuff was cheap at $4.00/yd and labeled as factory seconds. The stuff I received looks perfect. I also ordered 25 ft of their 1" 1000 lb webbing on clearance at .33 / ft (green seconds that also look perfect).



[url="http://www.diytacticalstore.com/catalog/"]http://www.diytacticalstore.com/catalog/[/url]



Now time to get sewing.
#59
You'll like that stuff! I have a bunch of it. You will find that you tend to sleep later since it is dark under your tarp.



I know DIY, Mike is a good guy.



I'll check on the coating, I'm not sure it is silicone. Just looked. It doesn't burn or scrape like a silicone coating. I think its poly. I'm going to test regular Kenyon seam seal on a scrap. Will keep you posted!





Muddyboots
Shared pain is lessened, shared joy is increased!

Thus do we refute entropy. -S. Robinson



Communication is a Survival Skill! So is critical thinking!





When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.



#60
[quote name='Dissimulator' post='196708' date='Jan 12 2008, 02:35 PM']for my first attempt I ordered 7 yard of coated (blackout) ACU with a backing that seems to be a black version of a silicone coating, however this is not specified on the website. This stuff was cheap at $4.00/yd and labeled as factory seconds. The stuff I received looks perfect. I also ordered 25 ft of their 1" 1000 lb webbing on clearance at .33 / ft (green seconds that also look perfect).



[url="http://www.diytacticalstore.com/catalog/"]http://www.diytacticalstore.com/catalog/[/url]



Now time to get sewing.[/quote]





correction: ripstop material was $4.50 /yd and webbing was sold by the yard, not by the foot. Don't know what happened to my edit button?



BTW, DIY shipped my order immediately and I received w/in a couple of days. shipping did cost $14.75 though.


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