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Are You Ready?
#31
[quote name='West Coast Liberal Atheist Scum' post='88626' date='Sep 27 2006, 10:20 AM'][quote name='Luvfal' post='88108' date='Sep 23 2006, 06:55 PM']

Liberals to eat.[/quote]





I was caught in a 7.0 quake in the Seattle area a few years back and things got pretty well disrupted for a short time. (Interestingly, it happened the day after we had some minor rioting that ended in a murder.) That's what finally got me serious about getting us prepared for real. It also taught me another valuable lesson, too, though: all the stockpiling in the world won't help you if you aren't home when disaster strikes, and can't get home! In the case of natural disasters (or bombs, for that matter), there's also no guaranty that your home will survive. That's one of the major problems highlighted by the fates of people in New Orleans who couldn't or wouldn't evacuate - a basement full of supplies won't help much when the water reaches the roof. Similarly, if "The Big One" the experts keep warning us is going to eventually hit the Pacific Northwest actually hits in my lifetime, I want to be prepared; but I'm not counting on my house making it through. It's a good house, a decent location - but there's just no way to predict such a thing.



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Actually according to a documentary I watched last night the next "Big One" will be in the form of a rather large asteroid that will pass relatively close to the earth in 2029. They say that this thing is so large and going to pass so close to the earth. If it should go thru what they call a keyhole which is actually a gravitational hole or eddy in space it could change the path of the asteroid where it could actually strike the earth. From what they are saying this thing could wipe out an entire seaboard. This show could really put some insecurities in you.
"The sun has not risen on the day that I will face death graciously. I will kick, and claw, and bite, and scratch, and spit my last breath in it's face. Never give up!"



"Beware the beast man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.

Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.

Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."
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#32
[quote name='hunter301' post='88630' date='Sep 27 2006, 11:56 AM']Actually according to a documentary I watched last night the next "Big One" will be in the form of a rather large asteroid that will pass relatively close to the earth in 2029. They say that this thing is so large and going to pass so close to the earth. If it should go thru what they call a keyhole which is actually a gravitational hole or eddy in space it could change the path of the asteroid where it could actually strike the earth. From what they are saying this thing could wipe out an entire seaboard. This show could really put some insecurities in you.[/quote]



Asteroid?!! Shit, I thought they said "ass roid."



*throws out three month stockpile of Preparation H*
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#33
Feeling pretty confident in our preps. Lately I've been really pushing family and friends to put away some supplies. I simply wouldn't be able to support them during a crisis and that would be horrible to endure.



I had a nightmare a year or so ago. I dreamt there had been some sort of disaster and my parents called. My mom, who basically lives by herself a few states away (we've been trying to get her to move closer) was on the phone crying and pleading for me to come up and get her. I had to tell her through choked tears that I couldn't, that it'd be too dangerous to attempt the 14 hour drive through major metropolitan areas to find her. That I couldn't take the risk of leaving my family. Then My dad called but only to say he loved us and that he wasn't getting out of there (he's oversees on longterm business). The entire dream was pitch black, I only heard their voices as though on a phone. It chilled me to the bone. My siblings are recently married, well, more recent than me. At my insistence they've started putting away small ammounts of supplies. Not nearly enough, but it's a start.



As far as guns go? um, I was in this tragic boating accident a while back.....





BTW, Thanks so much for putting out that Urban Master Video Ron. My wife and I have always been prep minded and have always had a few months of food storage on hand. We lived on it for 6 months after we were married and couldn't find work when we moved here for school. I'm glad my wife had enough forethought to put away some storage during our engagement. After we watched the video we decided to really get serious about our preps, particularily in organizing our approach. It was a pleasant surprise to find that once we went through the piles of food storage cluttering the basement, the shelving we bought to organize our food was not enough and that we'll probably need another couple storage racks. I was relieved to see that we had more than I thought. We were then able to see where we were lacking and then set a plan and budget to fill the holes. It's amazing how all this came together at the same time. Turns out a neighbor, who probably has 10 years of storage, has a contact to purchase 55gallon food grade drums for $13 a piece. We picked up 4, two for us, two for some friends. I may buy a couple more if I can find the space. The measurable progress in our emergency preps provides for a wonderful peace of mind.



Another bonus, it's something that really has brought me and my wife closer. Working together to help insure the well being of our family not only set us up for the future but apparently has provided immediate results.
Truly lazy people do things right the first time.
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#34
I'm still working on it. I have about 3 months supply of food and fuel, but I still need to put by a lot more water.



For those concerned about family members, send them a copy of Urbanmaster 1!





(Has anyone noticed that the Discovery, Science Channels and such are running disaster scenario shows almost every night? Superquake, Mega volcano, Giant Praying Mantis's....





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#35
We have a good amount of supplies, but would like to push it to a year. We are having some success getting other parts of our family to stock up and have loaned out our copy of UM 1 to the family(Although, it seems like a permanent loan since none of them own up to having it now! Family not repaying a loan...go figure!).



Not to single out any Hoodlum Mormons, but do the churches ever go in together and buy in bulk to save and then would they let a non-Mormon in on it? <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />



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#36
[quote name='macclint' post='88657' date='Sep 27 2006, 03:01 PM'](Has anyone noticed that the Discovery, Science Channels and such are running disaster scenario shows almost every night? Superquake, Mega volcano, Giant Praying Mantis's....





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Government probably figures if they can't get you to prepare for a man made (terrorist) disaster then they'll get you to prepare for a natural one. Hell we've had enough of those lately. I live in central Florida and it took a year before my house was finally back to shape from all the hurricanes in 2004. Had to do weekly inspections on the visqueen covering my roof. One more hurricane and I was outta here.

I have 10 foot ceilings in my house so my sliders are 8 foot high. Three sets looking out on the back porch pool area. That's 144 sq.ft. of glass alone. And every room in the house has a huge window on it. Man after Charley took me by suprise, and took my roof (down to the plywood that is) I was cutting wood for days trying to cover everything up for the next barrage of storms. My back porch had one huge plywood and 2x4 wall built around it. Looked like the damn Alamo. All you needed was firing slits. Had to enclose the back porch instead of covering the sliders. One reason was my mother was riding the storm out with us and she's not only on full time oxygen but a chain smoker to boot. So either she would have afficiated us with the smoking or blown us all to hell when she got her oxygen mask in one hand mixed up with her cigarette in the other.

The other reason I didn't want to fully cover everything is because I like to have more than one open exit out of the house should we need to get out fast.

Just a little disaster humor there. Believe me I wasn't laughing a couple of year ago.
"The sun has not risen on the day that I will face death graciously. I will kick, and claw, and bite, and scratch, and spit my last breath in it's face. Never give up!"



"Beware the beast man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.

Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.

Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."
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#37
Thanks Ron.
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#38
[quote name='macclint' post='88657' date='Sep 27 2006, 06:01 PM']Giant Praying Mantis's....[/quote]



Ah crud! Yet another thing to plan and prep for. Wonder if they taste like chicken?



Food and water to last a couple of months, all the other gear as needed. Don’t have the place in the country, but would bug out to a smaller town. Still working on the property thing.



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#39
IMO for the next Urban Master consider including a shopping list for preps. Title "What you can do with $100.00"

Make a prep guide and break it down into $100.00 blocks.

Copy canning etc. is easy enough but I think some people get stuck on the priorities of the preps. and supplies. You can't get it all at once but this is what you can do with $100.00, break it into easy to swallow blocks.

Start with an easy to build get kit for $100.00 then add components to follow the basics.
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#40
[quote name='sbsmith2' post='88660' date='Sep 27 2006, 05:03 PM']We have a good amount of supplies, but would like to push it to a year. We are having some success getting other parts of our family to stock up and have loaned out our copy of UM 1 to the family(Although, it seems like a permanent loan since none of them own up to having it now! Family not repaying a loan...go figure!).



Not to single out any Hoodlum Mormons, but do the churches ever go in together and buy in bulk to save and then would they let a non-Mormon in on it? <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />



Bryan[/quote]



Yeah. At least I'd certainly let you in. Generaly each ward (congregation) has someone given the responsibility of coordinating food storage and emergency prep. They setup times to go to the cannery, prepare instructional classes, check for deals on preps, etc. There is also a Stake (group of congregations in a give area) emergency prep person who sometimes has access to dry packers, those bag sealers, and other stake resources for emergency prep. The lady that I bought the Water barrels is the ward emergency prep specialist and told us that the stake let her take the Dry Packing machine (does no10 cans and seals those heavy foil bags) home for anyone to use. Soon as we find a good supplier of no10 Cans I'll be spending the weekend over there packing grains for our storage.



As far as the group buy thing goes it really depends on how into emergency prep the ward is. I'm a fanatic, and I've met a few other members of the ward that are as well, unfortunately though, there are plenty of sheeple among the mormons. It's estimated that only 15% of Mormons in Utah have food storage. I've been in wards where the Emergency Prep peson was great (like the one we are in now), sending out flyers, organizing group buys, having experts come in and give classes. And i've been in wards where the best info you could get how to make decorative candles.



If the ward does indeed do group buys and so on, I'm sure they'd be delighted to include you. As far as the cannery goes, you'd have to talk to the Ward or Stake specialist as the cannery requires scheduling. The best advice is if you know any members in your neighborhood to ask them who the ward/stake emergency prep specialist is and contact that person.
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#41
We do the Ward buy's when they come along. Our Bishop has set it up to Each month he will say we need to get a certain thing. Like last month was water. He says I do not care how much you put away as long as you are putting some away. This month it was to go through our 72 hour Kits and update them as it has been a full year from when we were supposed to put them together. My wife goes to a cooking class 2 times a week that some of the ladies do and some of the Older ladies will teach them how to cook from the food storage. I go to a class that we put on once a month for the men on how to start a garden and how to put the food away and how to prepare more.

How to build storage areas in your home, stuff like that.



We work every time Our ward has a canning assignment. My father used to be the Ward Prepardness Speacialist in our ward and stake. So that is how I got so into it. I teach a lot in the monthly gatherings and help in the scouts to teach them some skills as well.
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#42
[quote name='hunter301' post='88573' date='Sep 27 2006, 04:12 AM']I have noticed on most of these post that people usually only have food and water enough for 3 to 5 months at the most. But what happens after that. Even in New Orleans they where still struggling 5 months later. What happens in the long term SHTF scenario?[/quote]



The story at this link really emphasizes the point I was trying to make above.

[url="http://www.alpharubicon.com/prepinfo/backpackfever.htm"]http://www.alpharubicon.com/prepinfo/backpackfever.htm[/url]
"The sun has not risen on the day that I will face death graciously. I will kick, and claw, and bite, and scratch, and spit my last breath in it's face. Never give up!"



"Beware the beast man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.

Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours.

Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death."
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#43
Then I take my Very well honed Hunting skills to the woods and bring home more Elk or deer meat.



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#44
A couple of days ago, I cashed in my empty bottles and some my neighbor gave me. I got $28.25 for my trouble! Then it occured to me that I should convert my hoard of coins to paper money... Well with that done, I took $200 of the resulting cash and bought "bug in" supplies. I like the hundred dollar block idea and suggest that you can almost find that money laying around if you look for it!



Keep your planning simple and direct. Don't buy another gun under the plan of basic prep! There are a lot of OTHER things you probably need more! You can always use more food fuel and shelter items.



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#45
Muddyboots you are right-on. Spend it on food prep and medical prep. I would say that if you do not have a gun and ammo you may need to save up and get at least one as soon as you can. But if you have one or two then at least you are that much better off. But you can not eat a gun or ammo. What if you can not get to the woods to hunt for food? Then you will wish you had enough food and water set aside.
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