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Where Can I Find Iodine Crystals?
#1
Go to the School for Self Reliance's store... They are listed part way down the page.



[url="http://www.self-reliance.net/ogs4.html"]http://www.self-reliance.net/ogs4.html[/url]



While there, check out the rest of the site, and possibly get to some of Christopher's outdoor classes!



Bill

#2
You might want to check your state laws about possessing iodine crystals. Here in Texas if you have 3 or more components for making meth, you can face felony charges. So if I have iodine, alcohol and ephedrine in my house, I can be busted. Or lithium batteries, paint thinner & ephedrine. Or probably any number of household items.

Iodine crystals seem to be the preferred substance for "cold cooking" meth so I wouldn't order any large quantities. It might raise some eyebrows. Some states, such as California, require records of all sales of iodine crystals. Others require a permit for possession over a specified quantity. Alot of feed stores and veterinary supply stores carry iodine crystals.



Dan
"Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening my axe"- Abraham Lincoln



"He was the Sheriff, the Judge, he owned the hearse. A man you did not anger."-Tom Russsell describing Deacon Black in the song "The Sky Above, the Mud Below".
#3
Hey Dan...



Thanks for the info, it might help someone find a low-key source...



Geeze! What the heck has happened when a person has to worry about his ass, because he wants one ounce of iodine to purify water?



Bill

#4
[quote name='Bill Hay' post='85045' date='Sep 2 2006, 10:40 AM']Geeze! What the heck has happened when a person has to worry about his ass, because he wants one ounce of iodine to purify water?[/quote]



I am firmly convinced that is has nothing to do with "protecting" the public, but rathers it's about control, plain and simple. I'm sure if anyone looked hard enough, they could find enough common household items under the sink and in the garage to be in danger of being arrested as either an illegal drug manufacturer or bomb maker. It seems that in many places, and since the inception of the Patriot Act, life has gone from "innocent until proven guilty" to "guilty of what you MIGHT do."



The government will screw with people in the name of safety and security, the war on drugs, the war on crime, the war on terrorism, national security.... you name it, and they'll think up a reason why you shouldn't have some items because they MIGHT be used illegally. That's what the government does, it tells people how to live, what to eat, and where to shit. (And yes, check you local laws, you CAN be arrested for deficating in the wrong place.) It does this to control people, especially those people who might take umbrage at being told how to live, to keep them in line, and keep them from one day saying "I've had enough, I'm not going to be controled any longer." Then they throw ya' in jail because you've become a threat not to other citizens, but to those in power.



As for Iodine Crystals, I got 3 bottles from Christopher years ago before all this foolishness started. I keep one in the house for emergencies, one in the car kit, and one in my maxi-kit that goes into the woods with me. I imagine that puts me on a list of suspected drug manufacturers in some government computer somewhere. And I'm probably on countless other lists for the knives I own, the martial arts training I've had, the books I read, and the spiritual and/or political views I have. Right along with the rest of the Hoodlums, and I wouldn't have it any other way. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



But you know the way it goes, if you can't get iodine crystals, there are other methods of purifying water we can use. Nothing wrong with how my grandma use to clean her water (all their household water came from the fish pond/reservoir in the back of the house). Strain it,boil it, strain it again. Might look into how well common iodine solutions work for purifying water, at least liquid iodine is still available over the counter.



Sorry,seems I went off on a tangent there,

Sage
Sometimes they way you think it is, isn't the way it really is at all. -St. Orin-
#5
[quote name='Sage Blackthorn' post='85068' date='Sep 2 2006, 04:23 PM'][ And I'm probably on countless other lists for the knives I own, the martial arts training I've had, the books I read, and the spiritual and/or political views I have. Right along with the rest of the Hoodlums, and I wouldn't have it any other way. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />

Sage[/quote]



I just found out that I have to apply for a badge to pick up air freight from the airport for my job. A background check is mandatory. I wonder if associating with known subversives like y'all will preclude me from getting my badge? <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />
"Give me six hours to chop down a tree and I will spend the first four sharpening my axe"- Abraham Lincoln



"He was the Sheriff, the Judge, he owned the hearse. A man you did not anger."-Tom Russsell describing Deacon Black in the song "The Sky Above, the Mud Below".
#6
[quote name='el guero norteno' post='85132' date='Sep 3 2006, 08:30 AM']I wonder if associating with known subversives like y'all will preclude me from getting my badge? <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' />[/quote]





Naw ... you'll be fine. Yeah ... trust me.



Mike <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wink' />
#7
Although the regular iodine crystals are hard to obtain, and even Polar Pure is no longer stocked by many outdoor shops like REI, Sport Chalet, or A16, you can still purchase Polar Pure from Campmor and directly from the manufacturer (Polar Equipment, Inc., 12881 Foothill Lane, Saratoga, CA 95070).



Although slower to create a saturated solution than the regular iodine crystals, Polar Pure still does the same job on the water cooties, and lasts just as long. The time problem can be alleviated somewhat by simply filling the bottle with water and carrying it that way. The solution will be good to go when you need it and the bottle holds enough to treat two or three liters of water at once.



I don't know how much longer we will be able to get Polar Pure, but it might be a good idea to lay away a few bottles while we still can.



Fr. Mike
"No single snowflake blames itself for the avalanche"
#8
Father Mike, I've got an unopened bottle of Polar Pure that's about 5 yrs. old. Can anyone report about how safe or effective it might be? BTW, I've still got that spindle and base (yarrow?) that you gifted me at H2k2. I'm gonna get Halcon's guide and finally make my first handrill fire. Thanks again. Jason
#9
Hi Jason! As far as I know your unopened Polar Pure should be as good as the day you bought it. Bill Qualls still packs a bottle he's been using for close to 10 years if I'm not mistaken. Mine has been open for about 6 years and is still going strong. The stuff is good as long as there are still crystals in the bottle.



Alan's book is a great guide and if you follow it you WILL make fire. And blisters. The blisters are just part of the fun. As the men of another era used to say, "Do not forsake the honey for fear of the sting". <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



Fr. Mike
"No single snowflake blames itself for the avalanche"
#10
[quote name='Sage Blackthorn' post='85068' date='Sep 2 2006, 03:23 PM'][quote name='Bill Hay' post='85045' date='Sep 2 2006, 10:40 AM']

Geeze! What the heck has happened when a person has to worry about his ass, because he wants one ounce of iodine to purify water?[/quote]



I am firmly convinced that is has nothing to do with "protecting" the public, but rathers it's about control, plain and simple...



Sorry,seems I went off on a tangent there,

Sage

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Awww, well, geez, Sage...I really wish you hadn't said that. On the one hand it's nice to know you're not alone (usually) but on the other when someone reads your mail like you just did mine, well, it makes me start looking for bugs--and not the kind you can eat. You can add all the man-made global warming crap and anything the UN does to that list.



ara



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#11
Polar pure is elemental Iodine (more or less pure Iodine Crystals). It is good as long as there are crystals left in the bottle (after the bottle is opened it will keep longer if one keeps it full of water). The only difference between Polar pure and bulk Iodine crystals is the bottle (and maybe price depending on where you get the iodine). The Polar Pure bottle is a good safety feature as it insures one can't goof and accidental consume an iodine crystal, and that you get enough iodine to do the job.



Rocky


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