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Best Age To Start Learning Survival Skills?
#1
Howdy everyone,



I was just wondering what age yall think is the right age to start learning wilderness survival skills?



I have a three year daughter who i have taken camping once so far. Now, it's not the type of camping yall do. We went to a place that had showers and a firepit and grill all set up for us. I figured that would be the best place to start and then as she gets older we can start the backpacking and real outdoor living for a few days at a time.



I'm also trying to get the soon to be wife into camping and hiking. She has lived in San Jose her whole life and has only been camping one time. She liked the little weekend trip the three of us went on last summer. But, I think that might be as far as her survival training is going to go.



The little girl also talks about going camping and fishing but I'm not sure if i should take her fishing at this age. I don't want to freak her out when daddy guts and eats Nemo. Because daddy doesn't believe in catch and release.



So, what do you guys think? Should i continue going the route I am with the campsite already set up and then as she gets older we can start backpacking and hiking?



Thanks,

Shadowmonkey :usaflag:
#2
[quote name='Shadowmonkey' date='Feb 28 2006, 10:31 AM']Howdy everyone,

I was just wondering what age yall think is the right age to start learning wilderness survival skills?

The little girl also talks about going camping and fishing but I'm not sure if i should take her fishing at this age. I don't want to freak her out when daddy guts and eats Nemo. Because daddy doesn't believe in catch and release.



So, what do you guys think? Should i continue going the route I am with the campsite already set up and then as she gets older we can start backpacking and hiking?



Thanks,

Shadowmonkey  :usaflag:

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More power to you, Shadowmonkey. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> What better start could you give her???

As to the more gruesome side(s), just don't let her see too much 'till she's a bit older and understands that not all food comes in clingfilm or cans.!! <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':blink:' />
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#3
Tell her stories about what can be done and then ask her what SHE wants to do! Even that young, they have opinions.



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#4
Personally, I think you're on the right track. The learning process is sometimes slow, and it depends on where the person is on the curve when they start. Newbies, children and some women who have a distaste for being dirty need to start out slow and progress a little at a time...



Car camping in campsites gets them used to using a tent, sleeping on the ground with a nice air mattress or whatever, using a campfire with the propane stove on the tailgate to cook on, etc. ya see?



As the skills progress, you can reduce the overhead... No propane stove, for instance, no complete cook kit, reduced pack contents... They will begin to enjoy the challenge and make up their own restrictions...



My .02...



You might go to Ron and Karen's website, and find Karen's article on "introducing your woman to the woods", or something like that... It's a great article.



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#5
Thanks for all the advise guys. The lady and i are going to be going on a short overnighter this spring over at Big Basin. When i told her we wouldn't be able to take the big 8 man tent she got a little quiet but i think because its something i want she will go along with it.



A few more questions if yall dont mind.



1. HOw do you get that nasty plastic taste out of a new camelback? I heard to use baking soda, but wont that just make it taste like nasty baking soda?



2. Is there a way to de-bone fish while camping? I just get freaked out everytime i think of my baby eating fish with bone in it. I just cook and eat myself and hope i don't choke on a bone.



3. What type of back pack do yall recommend? I have a GI ruck sack left over from the Army.



Last question, for now. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' /> I will be starting school this spring, my goal is to be a Park Ranger. Are there any Rangers on here that could give me some advise or a heads up on some of the things I will need to know?



Thanks again,



Shadowmonkey :usaflag:
#6
the younger, the better, i say...get 'em used it...and as a plus...if their doing sumthin with dad, makes all the more good to them. as for the fish bone thing, ya try filleting ya fish? sharp knive down both sides of the back, cut off the belly meat, and voila...no bones. plus you can go further and cut up the fillets into fish nuggets...finger food, yanno?
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#7
Yeah, learn to fillet... Also, with small fish, you might bake them in tinfoil with some butter. When they are done (eyes turn milky white) use a spoon to scoop the meat off the skeleton. Kinda like filleting after they are cooked.



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B.

#8
First of all welcome to the forum and fatherhood.. It is quite a different test of survival/patience skills isn't it? I think you're doing fine. I've taken my 3 yr old to more primitive places than that and only had objections from Mom. It seems the little ones are pretty indifferent to clean and dirty and think more of fun and not fun. By the way, kids are much hardier than their Mommys think. To get rid of that plastic taste from that camel back, use a canteen. For fish, I really only have experience with trout. So if thats what youre cooking I can help. Assuming you cleaned and gutted it, after its cooked, pull out the ?dorsal?(back) fin. It should come out pretty easy. Cut along the back bone. Then gently "peel each side of the fish off the skeleton. With a little practice, you can get trout as boneless as anyone could expect boneless trout to be. As for that pack, DO NOT let her use it on anything more than a short day hike. If its for you I'm sure it'll do till you can get something better/else. If she's a city girl, anything less than state of the art associated with discomfort will spell the end of her even thinking of going backpacking. Better to rent her a " current state of the mart" pack than have her turn on you and your "archaic" gear. Blaming you for the fall of Rome and the whole weakness of men(Adam & the apple) and whatever else the feminine brain may be focused on at that particular moment. Just eat it and go down to REI or similar "approved" outdoor store and get her fitted proper for a decent pack. It may cost a small fortune, but in the grand scheme of man things.........MONEY WELL SPENT! Conclusion- Kids are good. Kids outdoors are greater. Weomen to watch them while we hunt or fish, priceless!



Good Luck
#9
Thanks for the advise



Unfortunately Im lacking in survival skills. Wilderness survival and survival in general is something that i have always wanted to learn. About the only thing i can do is make a fishing pole out of 550 cord, a stick and a pull tab from a coke can. I couldn't make a fire with out a lighter or match if my life depended on it.



I got lucky when i found Hoods Woods, because now i can get the videos and actually learn how to do the things i've always wanted to do.



I never learned how to fillet a fish but it is something Im going to learn to do. As for buying new gear thats not going to happen for a long time due to the cost of living in Cali., pre-school, two car payments and rent. I have decided to stick with canteens instead of wasting money on another camelback.



Thanks again everyone





Shadowmonkey :usaflag:


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