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WayneH

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Emergency Food Stores

Posted: 5/23/03 4:02 am

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Just to get a conversation started on the subject and make more specific information available. What are some recommendations for emergency food and why are these items on your list? Please list brand names when possible.



I like those diet bars from Slim-Fast. They taste pretty good, have lots of nutrition including calories from carbs and a little fat, and they are reasonably priced.



The ready.gov list gives this non-specific list:



Ready-to-eat canned meats, fruits and vegetables

Protein or fruit bars

Dry cereal or granola

Peanut butter

Dried fruit

Nuts

Crackers

Canned juices

Non-perishable pasteurized milk

High energy foods

Vitamins

Food for infants

Comfort/stress foods







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Mike Mlodzik

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okay ...

Posted: 5/23/03 1:56 pm

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... here's one for you.



SPAM



Good source of protein.

Fats up the wahzoo (and those are in short supply in an emergency).

Lots of sodium (did I mention LOTS!?).

Unlimited shelf-life (as in 'it's still good if the can is intact').

It's available in original (for us purists), low salt (kinda like the difference between the ocean and the Dead Sea), and the new SMOKED SPAM.



Ah ... food of the gods



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Birdog

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Re: okay ...

Posted: 5/24/03 10:50 am

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I started out with Wheat and Corn. You can buy them cheap at the feed store, like 100 pounds for under $10.00, and store them in buckets. I ate some wheat that had been stored for 25 years, and it still sprouted!



Buy a good wheat grinder, but don't grind your wheat until you need it. Once it's ground, it starts to loose it's nutrients.



Go to Baskin and Robbins and buy some dry ice. Put about half a pound in a 5 gallon bucket, fill with (what ever), and place the lid on losely. Wait until the ice has evaporated and seal the lid. I let it sit over night, but don't disturb it at all. The dry ice turns to Carbon Dioxide and forces out all of the Oxegen.



I use Gamma Seal lids, that have a screw off top, but you can reuse the original lids that come with the bucket, if the seal isn't damaged. Just take the seal out and wash it reallty well first, with hot soapy water.



You can get buckets for the taking from bakeries and places that buy bulk foods. Just wash them out really well. Make sure they were used for food only!



Once the buckets are sealed keep them in a place where the temp doesn't vary much, and the cooler the better, just not below freezing. A basement is usually ideal.



After you get your grains, you can suplimant them with oother canned foods. Home canned is better than store bought. That way you know what's in it!



The big thing is "USE WHAT YOU STORE, AND REPLACE WHAT YOU USE".



Buy a can of NON HYBRED Garden Seeds. They will last for decades as long as the can isn't opened, and you can save your own seeds for the next years garden. I purchased a can of seeds from Emergency Essentials, in Utah. It will give you enough seeds to plant an entire acre garden. Or call "The Country Store" in Vancouver, Washinton, (360) 891-4408. Ask for Jan, and tell her Pat Smith sent you. She can help you with anything conserning food storage, (a really good resource).



Edited by: Birdog at: 5/24/03 11:58:56 am



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n8qge

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Re: okay ...

Posted: 5/25/03 7:38 am

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Spam also comes in Cheese flavor and Turkey.







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Birdog

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Re: okay ...

Posted: 5/25/03 9:18 am

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Isn't Spam, Artificial Ham?



So now we have Artificial Ham made with Turkey?



That would make it Artificial, Artificial Ham!



What a world we live in?





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WayneH

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I love Spam and other stuff.

Posted: 5/30/03 8:52 pm

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A sandwich made of a couple slices of fried spam, and a slice of cheese makes a great lunch! The kids love it too.



Another food item that I keep on hand is Campbell's Condensed Chicken and Stars. In my opinion, possibly the all time best comfort food. I guess it reminds me of my childhood or something, but I always feel better after eating the stuff. Even when I felt pretty good to begin with. I bought it as a "fun food" for the kids a long time ago, then realized how much I still liked it.



I always have a couple sacks of egg noodles on hand too. You can put just about any kind of stew (pintos and black-eyed peas are good too) on them and it looks and tastes better. (again just my opinion) They have a very long shelf life as long as you keep them in an air tight container. I guess any dried pasta would be similar.





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WayneH

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I've been thinking about your answer

Posted: 6/2/03 6:34 pm

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and although buying raw (non-processed) grain may be something I do. (I buy many pounds of malt every year.) I don't think I would recommend that kind of a set up for the average person surfing the web looking for better ways to be prepared for a local emergency. I think most people are looking for what I had originally started looking for. New ideas about a subject that I knew very little about. A few short years ago, I would have thought you were nuts if you suggested that I buy a grain mill and 50 lbs sacks of feed. Now, heck, I would end up adding all of that wheat and corn into my brewing schedule!



PS. I've played with dry ice in the past and it left an oily residue in the water it was in. Wouldn't just purging the bucket with CO2 from a tank be just as good and also cleaner? Easier to get too.







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Birdog

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Re: I've been thinking about your answer

Posted: 6/3/03 9:11 am

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I would think the oil was from the machine that was used to make to dry ice. All it is, is compressed CO2. It shouldn't have any oil in it. If you wrap it in newspaper, the paper should obsorb the oil.



If you have access to a tank of Co2, by all means use it. most people don't!



The grains are just a very basic start. Easy, Cheap, and plentiful.



I suggest canning you own food from your own garden. Get the book "Encyclopedia of Country Living" by Carla Emery. It tells you how to can just about everything, along with almost everything else you need to know about being self sufficient.



You can also sprout the grains. That will give you about 200% more nutrients than the grain itself.



Check out Curt Saxons web sight. He has allot of unconventional ideas for growing, cooking and storing your own food.

http://www.curtsaxon.com, he's a strange old guy, so you should liker him allot. He fits right in here!





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aboman

WAUGH!

Actually....

Posted: 6/4/03 7:26 am

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...Birdog give pretty good answer.

Grains be plenty good long term emergency storage items. For coupla reasons...

They be Cheap!

Tehy be nutritious! They Store plenty long time. They taste good.

Waugh...

Two kinds of emergencies, though--short term and long term.

For short term--not more than one moon IMO-- canned stuff, high protein stuff, etc, be plenty good. For long term, though, better store bulk items. These keep ya going while you search/forage/work for other foodstuffs.

IMHO, combination of the two be best.

Remember, NUTRITION be most important aspect of any food. Don't store empty calories.

Feedin yer face be 'bout the oldest occupation on Earth. Nott many "new" ideas can improve on the tried and true.

Aboman gott whole chapter in Book on Food Storage. Maybe it would help-ya.

Waugh!!

--aboman







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Birdog

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Re: Actually....

Posted: 6/4/03 8:45 am

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Thanks Aboman!



Your book is another great resource for food storage along with alot of other helpul tips, like water purifucation, fire makeing, clothing, just to name a few. It's all a rich tapestry!



And it's small enough to carry in your survival pack!





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aboman

WAUGH!

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Posted: 6/5/03 5:46 am

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sincere6

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non-obvious seed list (e.g. cotton)

Posted: 3/13/04 12:51 pm

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(I realize this is a food-storage topic, but)

Any other seeds that may be good to have around for LONG-term hard times?



- rubber trees

- marijuana





(And as far as the shelf-life of Spam goes, isn't that measured by the life of the shelf?)







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Mike Mlodzik

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Re: non-obvious seed list (e.g. cotton)

Posted: 3/13/04 3:15 pm

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(And as far as the shelf-life of Spam goes, isn't that measured by the life of the shelf?)

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Yeah ... maybe the 'continental' shelf



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Handy

Dinty Moore Beef stew

Posted: 3/14/04 10:23 am

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Stays safe to eat in the can for a vey long time. We heat water in a cook can, peel off the label from the Dinty Moore can, drop the can in the heating water, wait a few minutes until can is hot, open and eat. Use left over water for other uses.





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sincere6

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equally an answer and a question

Posted: 3/15/04 9:31 am

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I believe I read that if you bake just plain old dough (flour/water) (AND ADD NOTHING ELSE) that it will last a very long time.

I don't know if there is a difference between white and whole wheat flour.





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WayneH

That's basically Hardtack

Posted: 3/21/04 4:16 am

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WayneH

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Tobacco

Posted: 3/21/04 4:17 am

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I have been doing this (stock emergency food) for many years. I think the first step is to develop a short term plan so you don't get overloaded. Start with a month or even a week plan and build on that. What if ??? If you live in the mountains like I have what if you can not get to the store for a week or so. Will you and your love ones be OK ?? The most important idea is that you start preparing. This is a very large top with lots of resources out there that can help you prepare your plan. <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' /> <img src='http://www.hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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Emergency foods are a great idea. Scenario: The dam has broken, you have 30 minutes to grab and get (happened here in '76), hurricane coming, 1 day max to grab and get (Katrina or other favorite storm). I think these foods are foods that should have a long storage life, compact, high energy and lots of calories. Easily storable and easily prepared. Granola bars, clif bars, Nuts,spam, sardines, kippers, tuna, crackers vitamins and water or a way to get "dead" water is essential. I keep a 3000 cu.in. backpack with these things ready including a 3 man tent, 2 bags, first aid kit, maxi kit, 3 knives, pepper spray and food for 3 days ready to go. I sewed a clear sleeve on the front of the pack and I put an index card with the date and inventory of contents on it. Call it paranoia but I wasn't ready in '76. It was not a pleasant experience relying on others while relief groups organized. If you have other ideas on what would be good I'd appreciate it. -Jim-
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