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Glock 20 and Bear Attack
#16
(09-21-2018, 07:02 PM)muleskinner Wrote: Simply having a firearm is not enough. You must be able to use it, and I mean really use it. Shooting at tin cans at twenty five yards, is not the kind of practice, I mean.  Being able to put three rounds in a milk jug at ten feet in a second and a half, is the kind of thing I am talking about.  Practice, practice, practice.

(09-21-2018, 07:22 PM)Bill Hay Wrote: Yeah...  Perfect advice.  "Having a gun makes you safe like having a piano makes you a concert pianist."

Firearm skills have a half-life, you stop practicing, your skills begin to deteriorate.

true, true, I like to get out and practice with my.44 as much as possible, I am getting decent 3 to 5" groupings at 40 yards.....so when I see my deer I'll have the confidence to take the shot...no good for bear defense since I cant carry it though...
Big Grin Big Grin   however I may not be AS tough as MS's grandmother but I'll give it all I got, with whatever I got at the time---broom, knife, rocks, magazine, house keys, my bow....

as I said we're not even allowed to carry my firearm camping or in the woods unless its hunting season AND I have a tag, otherwise apparently it can be considered poaching Confused Confused

However, I may have to challenge that in court one day....I am sure the game officer will understand.

AOC
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#17
(09-21-2018, 07:22 PM)Bill Hay Wrote: Yeah...  Perfect advice.  "Having a gun makes you safe like having a piano makes you a concert pianist."

Firearm skills have a half-life, you stop practicing, your skills begin to deteriorate.

Hey, I haven't stopped practicing. For the past few years, I have been resting.
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#18
Just a few years ago it was "illegal" to carry in some parks. Some carried in their backpacks anyway. It would have been impossible to reach weapons in time of crisis. My friend's solution was pepper spray. . . . and a road flare. His theory was, "It may kill me but the culprit will not be difficult to identify."
Addictive knife buying isn't guided by logic.

Its probably my age that makes people think I am an adult.

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#19
(09-22-2018, 12:34 PM)jbarrow Wrote:  My friend's solution was pepper spray. . . .  and a road flare. His theory was, "It may kill me but the culprit will not be difficult to identify."

HAHAH hes right about that...

I am one of those who know I do not have to obey un constitutional laws and sometimes i dont, but you're right....little good it will do you in your pack, while the bear is flaying you alive and crunching on your skull.... Dodgy

better to have back ups upon back ups, that way you may be able to open your pack up....

I think I would worry in bear country with no gun if I was on a solo trip---but together my friends and I are invincible...

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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#20
The best protection is always travel with a person that can not run as fast as you, and then when you encounter an aggressive bear, your companion will not run as fast as you and be eaten.
Sad, but it is survival of the fittest in this crazy world, and looking on the bright side, this would be an opportunity to collect a great video for YouTube while you companion is being eaten.
And what a entertaining bar room tale . . .

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#21
(09-20-2018, 09:50 PM)Adapt-Overcome-Conquer Wrote:
(09-19-2018, 11:01 PM)Tn Ridge Rover Wrote: That reminds me, I need to get a .357 Sig barrel for my Glock. My vacation time is 4 weeks away. I have 200 grain Double Tap ammo for my .40 Glock now. An upgrade my be a good thing.

Cool Dodgy  upgrade.

I am so happy that you Americans can at least protect yourselves from a quite savage and painful death---can you believe it Ronnie....we are actually NOT allowed (at least in my part of Eastern Ontario) to actually walk in the woods with any fire arm, not even a dinky lil .22 
(if its not during hunting season), and the RCMP thinks self defense from bear is not a valid reason to have and carry one! Angry absurd....their reasoning is that its rare but still....I dont let them stop me...I just carry a big effing knife and my bow...and delude myself into thinking it wont happen to me.

AOC


Got a lot on the table now, a Glock upgrade is on my list. Time will tell.     

Its great to fight back and win, but what if ya fight back and lose? Tis better to die fighting than die crying!

(09-20-2018, 09:50 PM)Adapt-Overcome-Conquer Wrote:
(09-19-2018, 11:01 PM)Tn Ridge Rover Wrote: That reminds me, I need to get a .357 Sig barrel for my Glock. My vacation time is 4 weeks away. I have 200 grain Double Tap ammo for my .40 Glock now. An upgrade my be a good thing.

Cool Dodgy  upgrade.

I am so happy that you Americans can at least protect yourselves from a quite savage and painful death---can you believe it Ronnie....we are actually NOT allowed (at least in my part of Eastern Ontario) to actually walk in the woods with any fire arm, not even a dinky lil .22 
(if its not during hunting season), and the RCMP thinks self defense from bear is not a valid reason to have and carry one! Angry absurd....their reasoning is that its rare but still....I dont let them stop me...I just carry a big effing knife and my bow...and delude myself into thinking it wont happen to me.

AOC


Got a lot on the table now, a Glock upgrade is on my list. Time will tell.     

Its great to fight back and win, but what if ya fight back and lose? Tis better to die fighting than die crying!
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#22
(09-28-2018, 12:32 PM)Tn Ridge Rover Wrote:     
Its great to fight back and win, but what if ya fight back and lose? Tis better to die fighting than die crying!

Heart   Cool  Yeah Ronnie, wiser words were never spoken!

AOC
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#23
(09-30-2018, 01:06 PM)Adapt-Overcome-Conquer Wrote:
(09-28-2018, 12:32 PM)Tn Ridge Rover Wrote:     
Its great to fight back and win, but what if ya fight back and lose? Tis better to die fighting than die crying!

Heart   Cool  Yeah Ronnie, wiser words were never spoken!

AOC

I disagree AOC.
I thought - "Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain, was more wise.

Tongue
"You can't hit the ball unless you take a swing."
Martin Crane

"As God once said - and I think rightly . . ."
Field Marshal Viscount Montgomery

“Steady Monty. you cant speak to me like that. I'm you boss."
Dwight D. Eisenhower


"Remember gentlemen it is not just France we are fighting for, it's champagne."
Churchill 




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#24
(10-01-2018, 07:15 AM)Limey Pete Wrote: I disagree AOC.
I thought - "Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain, was more wise.

Tongue

well it's a figure of speech Peter  Big Grin

Ronnie is full of wise words... hahah he is right up there under my sig with Mr. Twain...those Southerners are too darn smart....


AOC
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."--Thomas Jefferson

"Buy land- they are not making it anymore"- Mark Twain

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile €”hoping it will eat him last." -Winston Churchill

"Wilderness is in our hearts first and always. All of us can't have a cabin in the mountains. It's the wilderness within we must strive for first."- R. Sullivan
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#25
That guy clearly had screwed up priorities. Taking a chance on shooting a prize dog vs taking a chance of being eaten by a bear? That's not a difficult decision.
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#26
Man, the bear mauling scene from The Revenant comes to mind. It almost ended that way.
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