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Solo Canoe Portage Using An External Frame Pack
#1
I plan on doing some solo canoe camping trips in the future and that will involve some portage of the boat.



I hate portages.



I recently got a very light solo canoe (~30 lbs) but I dread having to carry the thing on my head.



I figured out a way to use an external frame pack (Seek Outside Paradox pack) to portage a canoe at my side with the weight held by the lowest part of the pack frame - thus transferred to the waist belt and shoulder straps.



I tied some cord to the canoe so that I have a loop at it's bottom edge at the gunwhale that I can use to hang into a hook/toggle that is lashed to the pack frame.



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The canoe's weight is on the pack frame and you use your "canoe side arm" to keep the boat tight to you and steer it. The canoe does block your field of view to the left but it is ridiculously comfortable to portage this way - trivial <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



I plan to use narrow webbing (less stretch) with quick release buckles so that the carrying system is more easily adjustable AND quick release. In a pinch though, cord works fine.
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#2
What a great idea. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' /> <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />

I don't like portages either....then again, who does?

I had a seventeen foot Wenonah in Royalex and sold it to a guy at work.

I am thinking of getting a ten or twelve foot solo canoe next....in Royalex again or Kevlar for fly fishing small lakes etc.

I love wood and canvas but at my age light weight wins out. <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />

What length is your canoe?



Griz
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#3
Thank you!



It's a 14.5' "Vagabond" GZ.



I did look at the 10' models ("Wee Lassie" types per Rushton) that are available and they can go down to 16 lbs for the Hornbeck. The short boats practically mandate the use of double bladed paddles though and they are slow.



My other canoe is a Wenonah Sundowner and I paddle it mostly solo as well <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />



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I just love canoes!
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#4
Oh wow, what an excellent idea!



I love canoes too!



that sure beats bush whacking with "the green giant" (our 100+ pound green fiberglass) <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' /> <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />





I will be looking forward to your trip reports while testing out this apparatus and I may follow you on this rig idea, tout suite!





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I plan on doing some solo canoe camping trips in the future and that will involve some portage of the boat.



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I'm jealous already.........
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#6
I cut my water teeth on a canoe. I envy you!





Thats pretty light. Whats it made of?
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We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

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#7
It is kevlar goodness TNRR <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />





On Newtown Creek under the Pulaski Bridge in Brooklyn, NY...





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#8
google images for Knudsen knu-pac and you'll get all kinds of ideas for carrying a canoe with a frame pack.









Hey your idea works and that's what matters.





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#9
Mrs. Griz wants to get kayaks, but I prefer open canoes.... Might have to get both <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />





Griz
Hopefully the S won't HTF and I pray every day that it won't. It would not be fun.



I have a high art..I wound with cruelty, all who wound me...Archillocus; 650 B.C.
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#10
Thanks for sharing
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#11
Very nice! I make strip canoes, and have plans for a rob roy this year, skin and frame construction that may get down into those weight ranges, (A Rob Roy is a decked canoe, like a kayak, but made to be paddled with a single blade.) My main canoe is a 17' chesnut, and the centre thwart has barbed wire and the word "penance" carved into it.

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#12
[quote name='mjh' timestamp='1468936108' post='609160']

google images for Knudsen knu-pac and you'll get all kinds of ideas for carrying a canoe with a frame pack.









Hey your idea works and that's what matters.

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You will likely have to make your own, Eric knudsen and his wife retired to Hawaii in 2007 and sold the company.

Eric said the new folks were having trouble sourcing parts.

Basically they added a Y extension to the top of aluminum external frames to support the canoe thwart.

It still places the canoe over the head and is not like Alukban's



Wetfoot: nice looking canoe my friend <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/> <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>

We have so much talent here <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsup:' />/>

P.S. I have a first edition of Rob Roy MacGreggor's book and met his great grandson (same name and an ex airline pilot) about 25 years ago



Griz
Hopefully the S won't HTF and I pray every day that it won't. It would not be fun.



I have a high art..I wound with cruelty, all who wound me...Archillocus; 650 B.C.
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#13
Oooo yeah!



Nice strip built there!



I still do need some kind of padded yoke set up to carry the canoe when I have no pack.



I love these kinds of "problems" <img src='http://hoodswoods.net/IVB/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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#14
Kevlar? Will it stop bullets?







Seriously, it looks like a fast one!
Message of Insight and Unity 

We go into the wilderness to fulfill our hearts and empty our minds of life's garbage.
The gear we leave behind and the challenges we encounter, 
Are methods we use to cleanse our spirits.
Of Survivalists and Bushcrafters, Primitive Technologists too, we are one.........

It is the wilderness within, we strive for first and always.
Not everyone can have a cabin in the mountains.
The thread that connects us, is fine like silk and strong as steel.
Together, the song of the wilderness is the song we sing!

"And can I say something else?"
Bushcrafting is "doing what you want to do." 
Survival is "doing what you have to do"
Primitive Technology is about all of the above........

By TNRR aka "Survival Sully"
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#15
It's not a speed demon TNRR but extremely responsive. The big red Wenonah pictured above is a FAST solo boat in that it hardly makes a hole in the water and it tracks. I wanted this boat for flat water, ponds and the twisties in between them with overhanging flaura. It still tracks plenty straight with proper english applied to the paddle but can go long stretches quite nicely.



I am going on an overnight group paddle on the last weekend of the month. It will be with the current on the Delaware Water Gap with extremely solid folks who I have camped with before, on numerous occasions at this point.



My first solo camp was on this water, going upstream in a sea kayak, where I wondered why everyone was going "the other way". Being from NYC and paddling the Hudson, I thought it was totally normal to paddle against the current.



I'm trying to do a single dry bag for this trip and adhering loosely to Whelen's pack list:

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My version of his list with a hammock setup...

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This boat does haul really effortlessly.

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